Police Can't Stop Cars

[MikePal]

Well there you go, right from the Solicitor General's office...go outdside and hunt and Fish...just don't break any distancing rules.

“On its own, being outside is not sufficient evidence of a failure to comply with the stay-at-home order."

TORONTO — A stay-at-home order went into effect in Ontario on Thursday but the government said police would not have the authority to randomly stop residents on the street to ensure compliance.

The measure, imposed in an effort to bring down soaring rates of COVID-19, means Ontarians are to venture out only for essential purposes such as health-care, food and exercise.

A spokesman for Solicitor General Sylvia Jones said the order doesn’t give police the power to enter homes or stop vehicles solely to check if the measure is being followed. Residents travelling to work are also not required to have proof from their boss that they are doing so.

“On its own, being outside is not sufficient evidence of a failure to comply with the stay-at-home order,” spokesman Stephen Warner said.

Critics have called the stay-at-home order unclear but Premier Doug Ford has asked residents to use their “best judgment” in deciding whether to go out.

Several police forces said they were still reviewing the details of the measure. The province sent police services a memo on enforcing the order but refused to make it public.

Peel police say they’ll respond to complaints
A spokeswoman for Peel Regional Police said the service planned to respond to complaints about violations of the order but would not be stopping drivers and pedestrians to see where they are going.

“It will be for the most part responding to calls,” Const. Sarah Patten said in a statement.

Toronto’s police chief said his force would release more details later and asked residents to do their part and stay home.

[impact]

Yep, they are only concerned with groups of 5 or more.
An agenda at play here.......

[fishermccann]

Yep, they are only concerned with groups of 5 or more.
An agenda at play here.......

Interesting concept. Can you elaborate on the 'agenda', that involves that group of more than 5? I don't think prevention of transmission is what you had in mind.

[Bushmoose]

Yep, they are only concerned with groups of 5 or more.
An agenda at play here.......

Actually, it's groups of "more" than 5, not five or more.

[fishermccann]

Actually, it's groups of "more" than 5, not five or more.

I thought that I had pointed that out in my reply to Impact.

[impact]

Interesting concept. Can you elaborate on the 'agenda', that involves that group of more than 5? I don't think prevention of transmission is what you had in mind.

Which activity do you prefer?
One is illegal and the other one is not. Care to identify and explain the rationale behind it? Some of us need a better explanation.

[Saskfly]

Was stopped yesterday by the OPP in a one cop ride program. Asked him what was up. He said it’s a “ride program” to let everyone know about the emergency measures.

Where there is a will there is a way.


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[rick_iles]

Well there you go, right from the Solicitor General's office...go outdside and hunt and Fish...just don't break any distancing rules.

Have you got a link to that? I need to send it to my buddy up north. He says OPP have check points set up....

[fishfood]

Have you got a link to that? I need to send it to my buddy up north. He says OPP have check points set up....

Would a check point be different than just stopping random cars. ?

Would be a like a ride no a grey area for the cops.

I think what he is saying that they can't just pull you over without a reason. You get pulled over for speeding they have the right to ask why you are out.

A check point or a cop waiting with the mnr checking fishing license at an access point .. or a ride could give authority to ask where you live and why you are out.

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[fishermccann]

The ministry does it all the time for ‘fish checks ‘ leaving Lake Simcoe. Many roads in and out of access points have ministry staff, OPP and fish smelling dogs. I never thought that was right , pulling people over because they looked like fishermen. Nothing more.