No it's because they don't want the 'shooter' to use the carcass. If you have a deer cull on a Framers property all deer shot are left to die were they lay.Originally Posted by Gun Nut
No it's because they don't want the 'shooter' to use the carcass. If you have a deer cull on a Framers property all deer shot are left to die were they lay.
I was on the migratory Kill/Harass list for a local farmer a couple years back, this is incorrect, they no longer force you to leave them, they say that they have to be disposed of as the farmers requests, they can be eaten by the farmer.
Those rules have changed, the farm just south of Bishops Mills that we chat about had cull tags for deer a number of years back, when the population was high, and they did not make them leave the deer but they did have a fixed number of tags per property and encouraged the shooting of does.
Your right, I see they issue tags now...Thanks for the update:
An authorized farmer or agent shall be in possession of a seal provided with the authorization or be hunting in a party with an authorized person who possesses a seal.
An authorized farmer or agent shall not transfer the seal to a person who is not authorized under the authorization.
Any deer killed shall be sealed immediately at the site of the kill with a seal provided with the authorization and in the manner indicated on the seal. The seal is only valid for the area described on the authorization. The head, bearing the seal, shall remain attached to the animal carcass while it is being transported until butchered or otherwise disposed of. All seals provided with the authorization that are not used shall be submitted to MNR within 15 days of the expiry date of the authorization.
Any deer killed shall be reported within 24 hours to the MNR issuing office. The report may be verbal, voice message, email or in writing. The report shall identify the sex of the animal(s), its disposal, (kept by farmer/agent, or donated to another person), and if donated, the name, address and phone number of the recipient.
The authorized farmer shall record pertinent information including the number and sex of deer taken, the disposal of the animals and the recipients of any meat donated, on a Deer Removal Authorization Report Form as each deer seal is used. This report form shall be submitted within 15 days of the expiry date of the authorization. A report is required even if no deer are taken.
Meat of deer killed under the authorization shall not be donated to food banks, soup kitchens, or to institutions such as senior citizens homes, hospitals, group homes or any similar institution.
Deer taken under the authorization shall not be sold.
I thought the same until I was added to the goose license, let me say, it is really weird jumping out of your car and walking towards a flock of geese, essentially trying to get them never to come back and taking some shots at reasonably close birds in the spring. They do destroy a lot of wheat though, especially if there is an area that tends to flood in the spring.
If we ever end up with a massive deer population again I will become an agent for that same farm to take out some extra deer, they still have loses but not nearly what they did back in the early 2000s.
Above is the section that applies to spoilage of meat. I think the farmer is off the hook.Abandoned and spoiled meat, pelts, etc.
Abandonment of meat
36 (1) A hunter or trapper who kills game wildlife other than a furbearing mammal shall not abandon it if its flesh may become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
Spoiled flesh
(2) A person who possesses game wildlife that is not a furbearing mammal and that was hunted or trapped shall not permit its flesh to become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).
Thanks for the update Fox, so when these birds do crop damage on my farm I can now kill them off. You mention something about a migratory Kill/Harass list is it necessary to be on it? Otherwise it would seem to imply there is an open season on these pests so I will no longer need a Migratory Bird License to shoot and eat. That is great news.
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
No, the farmer has to contact the MNRF and get permission to harass or destroy migratory birds, it might also include the federal government. You have to be listed as an agent on the form that allows you to do this. It is a process, not just something anyone can go and do. The same is the case for whitetail deer when they do significant damage.
Just to add to get these permits the MNR will come to your farm and inspect the 'supposed' damage. Some times they will set up cameras, sometime set up large fences/screens to separate out a section and compare it to the surrounding area to see if there is significant crop damage being done. It not as easy as a phone call they ensure the cull activities are warranted.
The only successful one I know of was a strawberry field that was seeing significant loss to deer grazing.
A farmer friend back home near Elora had what we claimed as 25% loss due to deer and they said that did not warrant a permit for him.
That farm was the hardest to hunt, he only owned the fields and after Oct 1st the deer would stay in the bush next door, which was no hunting, under well after dark then move to his property to clean up the corn still standing.
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