Moose Points are now posted

[Deer Hunter]

http://www.ontario.ca/moosetagprocess

[Ahuntr300]

Are outfitter tags still allowed? Are surplus tags still going to be available? This system seems quite complicated with a lot of unknowns. I wish I was an unregulated hunter, then I would have infinite points LOL.

[ysyg]

http://www.ontario.ca/moosetagprocess

Thanks for the link. The only unfair thing I see is that a hunter with 25 points could NOT get his first choice and all tags are gone before second choice draw. He is SOL. while another hunter with 3 points applies for calf first and gets it. 25 point guy stays home and 3 point guy goes moose hunting.

[werner.reiche]

Definitely can’t reserve it for next year.

You can refuse it and keep your points.
If you had 5 points this year and refused your tag, you'll have 6 next year.
You will have the same odds of getting a tag as everyone else that had 5 points last year and didn't get a tag.
The odds of getting the tag the following year are determined by numbers of hunters with the same number of points as you from last year and the total number of tags.

[werner.reiche]

Thanks for the link. The only unfair thing I see is that a hunter with 25 points could NOT get his first choice and all tags are gone before second choice draw. He is SOL. while another hunter with 3 points applies for calf first and gets it. 25 point guy stays home and 3 point guy goes moose hunting.

The guy with the 25 points could apply for the calf tag and go hunting. There are choices to be made.

[ysyg]

The guy with the 25 points could apply for the calf tag and go hunting. There are choices to be made.

Agree 100% Werner, just a bit of homework/strategy/ crapshoot, involved here.

[diverduck]

I can see this new system benefitting "lone wolves" who have a high point count if they applied as an individual every year and did not get a tag - your time has come! Second and subsequent years though it will be tough for them.

I don't think this will be good for established (guaranteed group size) groups who have been used to rotating the group member who gets a tag and getting a tag every year- most members will have a low count and it will take a few years to build up again. I think those will be dead for now. But then again, once they get all the high pointers taken care of, they have to give the remaining tags to someone, so no idea how that will work.

We'll see I guess.

I applied as part of a group for years. It’s been a long time since I drew a tag. The successful group applications didn’t effect me. I Still have 10 points. It appears you only reset to zero if you where the tag holder, and group success doesn’t impact things.

[trimmer21]

I applied as part of a group for years. It’s been a long time since I drew a tag. The successful group applications didn’t effect me. I Still have 10 points. It appears you only reset to zero if you where the tag holder, and group success doesn’t impact things.

That's correct. I notice from some posters lots of references to "group" this and "group" that. Every hunter needs to get out of the "group" mindset. That system is now gone,never to return (hopefully).

[m1k3_88]

so being a first time moose applicant, I'd have 0 points? and my chances for a tag are basically nothing for years....? that's what I'm getting here

[Deer Hunter]

so being a first time moose applicant, I'd have 0 points? and my chances for a tag are basically nothing for years....? that's what I'm getting here

Yes for the first year. Depending where you want to hunt and how many hunters apply, maybe the second year you might get a tag on the James Bay Coast on a fly in if you want to. Might take many years to get enough points to get a tag around Timmins. You can look at pass tag success rate to give you an idea. Also every year there was zones with extra tags available, I'm sure some of these places might need less points to get a tag. Or do you save your points for a chance at a area where everyone wants to hunt.