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January 26th, 2021, 03:03 PM
#91
You get one extra point.
Example you have 5 points in your “bank” you actually get 6.
You have 2 points when they do the math you have 3.
It does not accumulate so your not gaining 2 points a year your just adding one to your bank for that years application.
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January 26th, 2021 03:03 PM
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January 26th, 2021, 03:18 PM
#92

Originally Posted by
gbk
All in all-many asked what will be the points this year to get a tag.
My guess is: the number of points needed ina WMU/bull or cow will be the Guaranteed Group size from 2020 plus 1 -2 more points.
For the many areas NO Guarantee in 2020 -You can prepare Yourself if simply divide number of applicant in 2020 versus number of tags(bull or cow)available in 2020,then ADD 1-2 points to it.
I think this will put You in ballpark.
MNRF has to work with something.......... last year numbers would be a good benchmark for them.
I do not believe they have anything different to work with ,anyway.
The only problem with that theory is most WMU's in the south didn't have guaranteed group tags,so,there wouldn't be data to use.I doubt it had any bearing,at all.For the most part,I think they're just going into this system cold.
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January 26th, 2021, 03:25 PM
#93

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
The only problem with that theory is most WMU's in the south didn't have guaranteed group tags,so,there wouldn't be data to use.I doubt it had any bearing,at all.For the most part,I think they're just going into this system cold.
The group sizes from the past were part of the problem too, there were too many tags still going out and meeting the group size expectations. They need to go in with at most the same number of tags available and based on applications the people with the most points get the first opportunity.
They should be able to come out and say "Last year in this WMU anyone who had more than X points had an opportunity at a Y tag".
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January 27th, 2021, 09:33 AM
#94

Originally Posted by
Saskfly
You get one extra point.
Example you have 5 points in your “bank” you actually get 6.
You have 2 points when they do the math you have 3.
It does not accumulate so your not gaining 2 points a year your just adding one to your bank for that years application.
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January 27th, 2021, 11:04 AM
#95

Originally Posted by
outdoorlife
Why on earth would a southern moose group want a first year hunter now?
A parent who was looking forward to going moose hunting with his/her teenage kids at a legacy camp would likely see this as the end of the road.....those people are all going to need to get back to heading well North and camping.
Wow, if that is really the opinion of hunting and getting your family involved then we have a serious problem.
Hunting should not be about filling tags, it should be about the experience. If you have a rookie hunter in a group and someone gets a tag then you still have the party hunt, the bird hunt, the fishing and more importantly the time away with family. If the only reason to bring new hunters in to the sport is to get a moose tag then we as a hunting community are doomed.
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January 28th, 2021, 08:39 AM
#96

Originally Posted by
Deer Hunter
They haven't really talked about how Calf, cow or bull tag draw will work. Will calf be a separate draw then adult tags?
If you need the same amount of points for a calf tag that you do for a bull tag, I don't think too many people will be applying for calf? Might not be a bad thing.
I was trying to figure out how this would work. There's a bit of thinking to be done about what you want to do and how to work it out with your buddies. For example, if you are making a long trip to hunt and only are going to go if you have a cow/bull tag, then only apply for cow/bull. But if you want to hunt every year even with only a calf tag, then the guys with most points should apply for cow/bull and the guys with lesser points should apply for a calf. Of the guys who get calf tags, the guy with least points should accept his and the others should return theirs for next year. You could accept more than 1 calf tag, but that will decrease your odds of a calf tag next near. Depends on how many guys you have together. Being able to return a tag gives a whole lot of flexibility in hunt planning.
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January 28th, 2021, 09:02 AM
#97

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
I was trying to figure out how this would work. There's a bit of thinking to be done about what you want to do and how to work it out with your buddies. For example, if you are making a long trip to hunt and only are going to go if you have a cow/bull tag, then only apply for cow/bull. But if you want to hunt every year even with only a calf tag, then the guys with most points should apply for cow/bull and the guys with lesser points should apply for a calf. Of the guys who get calf tags, the guy with least points should accept his and the others should return theirs for next year. You could accept more than 1 calf tag, but that will decrease your odds of a calf tag next near. Depends on how many guys you have together. Being able to return a tag gives a whole lot of flexibility in hunt planning.
What do you mean cow/bull tag ? The choices are, bull, cow/calf and calf.....
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January 28th, 2021, 10:50 AM
#98
I think we have to stop thinking of the moose allocation as a draw, a draw means out of a hat, randomness to it. The moose allocation is going to be done with seniority, you say that you want a bull or cow/calf of calf in a given WMU and they start at the top of the list calling people to see if the want that tag, if they do not get to you then you wait until next year and you get an extra point.
You should be able to say you want a tag in every single WMU in the province if you want, once your points are gone it does not matter, or select only the WMU or WMUs that you may go hunt at.
We shall see how things actually come out, I hope to see very few cow or calf tags allocated in easy to access WMUs.
Here is to hoping my son will be able to hunt moose in Ontario.
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January 28th, 2021, 11:38 AM
#99

Originally Posted by
Fox
I think we have to stop thinking of the moose allocation as a draw, a draw means out of a hat, randomness to it. The moose allocation is going to be done with seniority, you say that you want a bull or cow/calf of calf in a given WMU and they start at the top of the list calling people to see if the want that tag, if they do not get to you then you wait until next year and you get an extra point.
You should be able to say you want a tag in every single WMU in the province if you want, once your points are gone it does not matter, or select only the WMU or WMUs that you may go hunt at.
We shall see how things actually come out, I hope to see very few cow or calf tags allocated in easy to access WMUs.
Here is to hoping my son will be able to hunt moose in Ontario.
It will still be a draw. Hunters with the same number of points will go into a pool, and a draw will allocate tags accordingly.
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January 28th, 2021, 11:58 AM
#100

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
It will still be a draw. Hunters with the same number of points will go into a pool, and a draw will allocate tags accordingly.
Ok, that makes sense, but not everyone will go in to a draw as it was in the past.