End the lockdowns

[greatwhite]

So now you have to Quarantine, I thought you were against snowbirds. But it's OK if your family takes off? Obviously not concerned about Covid at all.

Canadaman,

I think there is a whole bunch of confusion going on here in relation to all this.

My daughter just flew in a few days ago from Costa RICO, she flew up via Chicago and needed a Negative Covid result before she left Costa Rico. On arrival here she was told she could not go from TORONTO directly to Edmonton where she works. She would have to quarantine for 14 days with us. So that is what she has been doing ,they called yesterday to make sure she is still here, but the same lady said that she COULD have went directly to Edmonton that night she landed or ANYTIME. LOL who is on first base.

[canadaman30]

Canadaman,

I think there is a whole bunch of confusion going on here in relation to all this.

My daughter just flew in a few days ago from Costa RICO, she flew up via Chicago and needed a Negative Covid result before she left Costa Rico. On arrival here she was told she could not go from TORONTO directly to Edmonton where she works. She would have to quarantine for 14 days with us. So that is what she has been doing ,they called yesterday to make sure she is still here, but the same lady said that she COULD have went directly to Edmonton that night she landed or ANYTIME. LOL who is on first base.

Different strokes for different folks

[Gilroy]

So now you have to Quarantine, I thought you were against snowbirds. But it's OK if your family takes off? Obviously not concerned about Covid at all.

Please show me where I mentioned snowbirds being for or against. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MY DAUGHTER being down in Costa Rico for two weeks, I have no problems as long as people obey the rules. She went now she is in isolation.

The point of my post to Canadaman is that there is massive confusion on what the different levels of Government's are deciding and what airline staff are telling travelers.

[Gilroy]

Gilroy, no one in the world had a vaccine ready to go last March.....when Providenc e submitted a modest proposal for 35 million. Instead it was Oct and only 4.7z They would be near ready today if Trudeau had used his brain

and with respect to your bs, lame, argue everything but god forbid admit they are inept, corporate welfare. 135 million announced in Oct. 8 months late.....when a Canadian company, said “we can do it.” Way back.

So try to keep up.

So Brian Pallister the Premier of Manitoba was just on telly CBC 10 seconds ago. Mr Pallister has given Province 50million dollars for a made in Canada vaccine which I believe they said would be made in Manitoba. The facility is not built, the vaccine will not be READY UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR. He stated when it get's approved, that's premature it's IF it get's approved. They still have to do the testing.

[JBen]

Ok “good for Manitoba”.
Shame the had to step up and act because the Feds.....

Later this year? So in roughly 8 months? Same they didn’t get 50 or even 100mm back in April.,?10 months ago.

Why are you struggling with timelines Terry? You seem to be having real trouble with how critical time is. And how JTs decisions and lack of action have cost of TIME.

[MikePal]

which I believe they said would be made in Manitoba. The facility is not built, the vaccine will not be READY UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR. He stated when it get's approved, that's premature it's IF it get's approved. They still have to do the testing.

Your really must pay more attention to what to see and read....

1st:

Manitoba became the first province Thursday to publicly break from the national procurement process in a bid to secure its own supply, announcing an agreement to buy two million doses of a vaccine candidate that is under development in Calgary.

Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister told a news conference his province has made its own deal with Providence Therapeutics (Alberta), which has just begun the first phase of human testing on its mRNA vaccine candidate.

2nd Manitoba will team with Providence Therapeutics (buy licence) so they can manufacture the vaccine in Manitoba (not develop a new vaccine) buy the end of the year.

According to Pallister, the company will partner with a manufacturing company in Manitoba and could see doses roll out by end of year, pending federal approval.

[Gilroy]

Ok “good for Manitoba”.
Shame the had to step up and act because the Feds.....

Later this year? So in roughly 8 months? Same they didn’t get 50 or even 100mm back in April.,?10 months ago.

Why are you struggling with timelines Terry? You seem to be having real trouble with how critical time is. And how JTs decisions and lack of action have cost of TIME.

let's be honest here, nobody predicted a Global pandemic and there was nothing in place. Nobody knew how out of control it got, nobody figured out variants. If a company had a "crystal ball" and knew this was coming I am sure a factory would have been built and so forth.

Time lines are of course important but I have to think Trudeau did what he thought was best at the time and went with established big name
companies. If Providence was so sure of its ability to develop a vaccine, get it tested on humans and actually have a facility built in the first place, would not private investors have not jumped right in there. So right now they have the square route of zero, no vaccine, no facility and a maybe promise of the end of this year.

[Gilroy]

Your really must pay more attention to what to see and read....

1st:

2nd Manitoba will team with Providence Therapeutics (buy licence) so they can manufacture the vaccine in Manitoba (not develop a new vaccine) buy the end of the year.

Mike I watched the television and took from it what I heard. So I did not see or read anything I heard it.

But I am sure the readers appreciate you now giving them the written text from a different source from what I HEARD.

[johnjyb]

The timeline for getting a vaccine or whatever this "cure" is for covid is important, but not even close to as important as it is for us as Canadians to be able to manufacture it in Canada and not rely on another country which is going to say "eat poop", we are giving our people the cure before we sell to you.
I have no problem with any country looking out for their citizens first, they have the product and can be as selfish as they want.
Instead of finger pointing and blaming everyone else who screwed up 10 or 20 years ago before them, let's just get back to manufacturing what we need internally so we can fill our own needs.
This is not the last rodeo for viruses, plagues or whatever, it is an ongoing issue that is not going to get any better.
We have global travel that can infect the world now in hours not months or years, whether it is intentional or not.
Petty game-man-ship has to stop. We need Canadian manufacturers making product for Canadians to use, not begging at the world bank of vaccines or whatever it is for something we should be a world leader producing.
We have some of the infrastructure already, lets expand it and make jobs that way instead of giving money to other countries for their products.
John

[sawbill]

We need Canadian manufacturers making product for Canadians to use, not begging at the world bank of vaccines or whatever it is for something we should be a world leader producing.John

John, hopefully I'm wrong but I can't see that happening. I costs just as much to develop a vaccine for 350 million as it does for 35 million. I doubt we Canadians can afford even the R & D.