Risk of death from COVID-19

[MikePal]

Some stats from hospitals in the GTA....

A study published Wednesday in the Canadian Medical Association Journal (CMAJ) found the risk of death from COVID-19 was 3.5 times higher than from influenza.

The numbers put a figure on the severity of the novel coronavirus, which experts have been speaking to since the pandemic began.

The study analyzed hospitalized cases of COVID and influenza between November 2019 and June 2020 in seven Toronto-area hospitals, finding that people admitted with COVID-19 were 1.5 times more likely to need intensive care, and stayed in hospitals 1.5 times longer than patients admitted with influenza.

The study used data extracted from hospital computer systems to describe details of patients' hospitalizations, says Dr. Amol Verma of St. Michael's Hospital and the University of Toronto.

That data included things like demographics, vital signs, laboratory test results, use of hospital resources like ventilators, and outcomes of their hospital stay — whether they died in hospital, needed intensive care, or were re-admitted.

The findings from the Canadian study were similar to results recently reported in France and the United States, the CMAJ says.

"We can now say definitively that COVID-19 is much more severe than seasonal influenza," Verma said in a release.

There were 1,027 hospitalizations for COVID-19 in 972 patients — some re-admissions were included in the study — compared to 783 hospitalizations for influenza in 763 patients.

Those figures represent 23.5 per cent of all hospitalizations for COVID-19 in Ontario during the study period.

Most patients hospitalized with COVID-19 had few other illnesses, and 21 per cent were younger than 50 years of age. People younger than 50 also accounted for 24 per cent of admissions to the ICU, the study found.

more info: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/risk-death...200253993.html

[trimmer21]

No matter which way they "spin" it,fatality rates are still infinitesimally small overall,especially,if separate stats from Toronto are excluded from the provincial total. Shutdowns,lockdowns and travel bans should have been geographical specific,restricted to areas of highest infection rates. Province-wide lockdowns have done far more damage than the pandemic,itself.

[MikePal]

That was my take on it,especially :

..finding that people admitted with COVID-19 were 1.5 times more likely to need intensive care, and stayed in hospitals 1.5 times longer than patients admitted with influenza..

That is not the signature of a pandemic. 1.5x !!! They've destroyed the economy for the slight chance to may get more sick from Covid that the annual Flu..

[impact]

There are many reasons why a person is placed in ICU or on a ventilator. Covid / Influenza is only one of them.
Remember, the way they have been testing with the faulty PCR skews data. They may tell you that you have Covid but not necessarily the main reason for your hospital visit.

There are 6.2 million people in the GTA. The rise in a couple of hundred hospital stays is insignificant.

Why are ventilators used?
■ To deliver high concentrations of oxygen into the lungs.
■ To help get rid of carbon dioxide.
■ To decrease the amount of energy a patient uses on
breathing so their body can concentrate on fighting
infection or recovering.
■ To breathe for a person who is not breathing because of
injury to the nervous system, like the brain or spinal cord, or
who has very weak muscles.
■ To breathe for a patient who is unconscious because of a
severe infection, build up of toxins, or drug overdose.

https://www.thoracic.org/patients/pa...entilation.pdf

[MihajloSimsic]

They don't want to mention that people admitted to the ICU for covid-19 have an average of 2.6 co-morbidities. "He was a healthy boy" meanwhile having type two diabetes and a BMI of 40+ with chronic asthma... They also don't want to mention that 1.6% of people who take the Pfeizer vaccine have grade 3 adverse effects, which means severe symptoms that may require hospitalization. You're basically more likely as a healthy person to get sick from the vaccine than the virus itself.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer by any means, quite the opposite infact. But labotamites that are afraid to have any original thoughts will be quick to call you one if you say anything against the covid vaccine. If you have pulmonary or cardiac co-morbidities or are obese, by all means you should probably get the vaccine. But someone who isn't vitamin deficient and relatively in shape will be perfectly fine...

[MikePal]

They don't want to mention that people admitted to the ICU for covid-19 have an average of 2.6 co-morbidities. "He was a healthy boy" meanwhile having type two diabetes and a BMI of 40+ with chronic asthma...

They've had dozens of stories about how the Covid virus was adversely affecting 'racialized' communities..but not one mention they were also the most unhealthy ..diabetes, obesity, drug user etc etc.

There is a lot wrong with the way this 'pandemic' was covered on MSM. Purposely slanted to instil fear to gain compliance with restrictions. Good to see studies are being doen (like at the link) that cut thru the BS.

[delmer]

No matter which way they "spin" it,fatality rates are still infinitesimally small overall,especially,if separate stats from Toronto are excluded from the provincial total. Shutdowns,lockdowns and travel bans should have been geographical specific,restricted to areas of highest infection rates. Province-wide lockdowns have done far more damage than the pandemic,itself.

You got that right! Up here we figured we would get the green light to re-open Wednesday, but had the rug pulled out from under us when it was told we wouldn't because there was one active case in the health unit, and it was the UK variant. The case was resolved the day after the announcement, but how can lockdown be justified in a sparsely populated area that covers over 14,000 square kilometers, because of one case? If they use that same criteria in Toronto, they will never be out of lockdown.

[fishfood]

" Until the whole world has access and is vaccinated nobody is safe. "

A message from the WHO could still be a few years until everyone gets a vaccine they say .

I guess just let if run its course after that? I mean there is no evidence of the vaccine stopping the virus from spreading .

So everyone still has to pass the virus along without showing as many symptoms?



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[fishfood]

You got that right! Up here we figured we would get the green light to re-open Wednesday, but had the rug pulled out from under us when it was told we wouldn't because there was one active case in the health unit, and it was the UK variant. The case was resolved the day after the announcement, but how can lockdown be justified in a sparsely populated area that covers over 14,000 square kilometers, because of one case? If they use that same criteria in Toronto, they will never be out of lockdown.

February 22 supposed to be for York region is it not ? I hope they don't delay it even more.

What area are you in ? That sucks 1 case and keeping it closed how long another week. ?


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[MihajloSimsic]

I'd also like you guys to know that Doug Ford is the owner of his family business Deco which is in the business of labeling and packaging material for Amazon shipments (among others). And has benefited greatly from the lockdown and has not been closed. Looks like Doug just needed one more week of cash grabbing to afford a house in the Carribean.
I guess after Trudeau broke the conflict of interest laws it wasn't a law anymore?