End the lockdowns #2

[Gilroy]

The hard truth is being censored...lol.

Trump stated that there was no problems with Covid, it was just like the flu, no problem. That is until he got Covid and they had to pull all the stops out for The Dear Leader. LOL

[Tigboy 304]

What your missing is that it took 4 years of war, grenades, bullets, tanks, artillery and bombs, to do what Covid has done in under 1 year.

That is true I don't dispute the numbers but I have a friend who is 85yrs young lives on his own and is in good health put it to me this way. Half of those that died in LTC homes was probably a blessing and were wanting to die anyway as most have no quality of life left or dignity. He himself carries DNR every where he goes as if the situation were to arise he would rather pass than be resuscitated and put in a LTC facility depending on someone to take care of his personal needs and l most certainly understand his point of view as I wouldn't want to be in that situation either having someone feed me or clean my back side what kind of life is that. Not one I would want.

[Gilroy]

You are so full of uneducated BS that you did not even bother to check our own Health Canada website...lol

https://covid-vaccine.canada.ca/veklury/product-details

Brand name
Veklury
Company name
Gilead Sciences Canada Inc
Ingredient
remdesivir
Status
Authorized
Date of approval
July 27, 2020

If you had done YOUR HOMEWORK you would find that it is not one of the main drugs being used because of the following reasons only recommended in patients with the following:

Health Canada has approved an antiviral drug to treat severe cases of COVID-19
Remdesivir can only be given intravenously and only under clinical monitoring
This is the first drug approved in Canada to treat the novel coronavirus disease

severe symptoms of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
pneumonia
require extra oxygen to help them breathe

The next reason why it is not in general use is as follows

The approximate five-day cost of remdesivir is CAN $3,122


So because Trump get's a doze to save himself does not mean its available or suited for the average Canadian.

[impact]

If you had done YOUR HOMEWORK you would find that it is not one of the main drugs being used because of the following reasons only recommended in patients with the following:

Health Canada has approved an antiviral drug to treat severe cases of COVID-19
Remdesivir can only be given intravenously and only under clinical monitoring
This is the first drug approved in Canada to treat the novel coronavirus disease

severe symptoms of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
pneumonia
require extra oxygen to help them breathe

The next reason why it is not in general use is as follows

The approximate five-day cost of remdesivir is CAN $3,122


So because Trump get's a doze to save himself does not mean its available or suited for the average Canadian.

You are so full of it. It is available to all Canadians and we have OHIP.
Our doctors are saving people with that drug and there is no denying it.

Unless of course your agenda is not saving anyone?

Lets see, believe an internet troll who has zero medical background and clearly promoting an agenda or trust in the medical profession who "First, do no Harm" Are you afraid that the truth may leak out that treatment is available? You can spin it anyway you want but we see through your BS

[Gilroy]

"You can spin it anyway you want but we see through your BS"

There is no "we" in you, this is your opinion only. Anyone with a lick of common sense knows this drug is not in general use for the treatment of Covid for the following reasons which I shall repeat for you, try and read this time.

Remdesivir was authorized with conditions in Canada on July 27, 2020. It was authorized for the treatment of severe COVID-19 in adults and youth (aged 12 years and over and weighing at least 40 kg) with pneumonia requiring supplemental oxygen.Nov. 26, 2020

So NO its not available to all Canadians as they would not meet the criteria to have it administered.


While your babbling on about "zero medical background" please list YOUR qualifications.

[impact]

"You can spin it anyway you want but we see through your BS"

There is no "we" in you, this is your opinion only. Anyone with a lick of common sense knows this drug is not in general use for the treatment of Covid for the following reasons which I shall repeat for you, try and read this time.

Remdesivir was authorized with conditions in Canada on July 27, 2020. It was authorized for the treatment of severe COVID-19 in adults and youth (aged 12 years and over and weighing at least 40 kg) with pneumonia requiring supplemental oxygen.Nov. 26, 2020


While your babbling on about "zero medical background" please list YOUR qualifications.

You quote the drug as exactly how it is intended to be used. Most severe cases.
The majority of the population which is over 90% will brush off covid as simply mild symptoms. No need for any medical treatments other than bedrest and over the counter medication. We have a 1 year history now that supports this. The most severe cases are due to morbidities and can be treated with therapeutics.

This information has been repeated ad nauseum on this forum. So, keep trolling away.

[impact]

"No credible doctor would harm your well-being by stripping you of your freedom, your personal contact with loved ones, and your joy. No trustworthy doctor would prevent you from singing in a choir, participating in team and individual sports, going to the gym, or enjoying life in the manner you choose. No ethical doctor would harm your well-being and then give you a brochure explaining how to minimize the harms that he is inflicting upon you."

"Tragically, Canada’s federal and provincial governments are behaving exactly like the unethical doctor described above. Politicians are harming your health on the advice of politically appointed chief medical officers, who are prescribing a useless and toxic “cure” for a virus that poses no significant threat to children, youth, and about 90 percent of the population."

"Rather than protecting vulnerable seniors in nursing homes (a task at which politicians have failed miserably), our governments are steadily destroying the mental, physical, spiritual and financial wellbeing of 38 million Canadians. Politicians have not put forward any credible evidence to support their belief that lockdowns have saved lives. In contrast, there is plenty of evidence of devastating lockdown harms, spelled out in detail in other columns on this website."

https://www.jccf.ca/the-doctor-who-r...edical-advice/

[trimmer21]

The last three regions are coming out of lockdown this coming Monday to enter the "gray" zone. It seems the political heat is getting to the government despite the brayings of "the sky is falling" John Tory and the Toronto MOH. Reading the tea leaves,it seems most everyone has had enough of the lockdown stuff.

[MikePal]

You are so full of it. It is available to all Canadians and we have OHIP.
Our doctors are saving people with that drug and there is no denying it.

We all know you're right Impact and I know you have far more medical training than most everyone on the forum so I do have respect for you opinion.

Not so much for the Troll whose only agenda is stir the pot.

[Gilroy]

The last three regions are coming out of lockdown this coming Monday to enter the "gray" zone. It seems the political heat is getting to the government despite the brayings of "the sky is falling" John Tory and the Toronto MOH. Reading the tea leaves,it seems most everyone has had enough of the lockdown stuff.

I hear you brother but the reality for folk's is so very different put yourself in the shoes of a struggling hard working immigrant (yes they exist) lets say from Syria who has a wife and a couple of kids to support. He lives in a 2 bedroom apartment in a high rise with bunch of other folk's all taking the elevator to their floor. He takes a bus to a low paying factory job in Brampton where he must show up or lose his job. He gets no sick time or benefits if he takes ill.

So I am in the same area retired, I live in a big 4 bedroom home, only have to go out if I need to, I have full medical benefits.
If I go out I take my car and if I needed I could order my food to my door. Big difference.