Vaccine efficacy

[impact]

According to MSM in Canada the new virus variants are wreaking havoc in the general population hence the stay ay home order and lockdowns.

As of April 2nd and according to the government 5.9 million doses of vaccine have so far been administered. This was directed at our most vulnerable population and support staff. This is 17% of our population which compares favourably with the USA at 20% who now enjoy a much greater degree of freedom and mobility. Basically, back to normal in many states.

So, given the supposedly current crisis we are in was it all for nothing? The doses do not protect against any variants?
Wash, rinse, repeat? A perpetual cycle of continuous vaccinations? Variant specific booster shots? I smell a big Pharma rat!

https://investors.modernatx.com/news...ecific-vaccine

https://www.who.int/influenza_vaccin...ectiveness.PDF

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...ine-safety/#a6

[Badenoch]

Sure. Just like people get a flu shot every fall to protect against the most prevalent strain of that year. Very few vaccines are "one and done." Most require booster shots at various intervals.

[FishHog]

actually 34% of the US have their first dose compared to 18% of Canada, so maybe its the almost double numbers of vaccine that is helping the US get back to normal.

Maybe not, but I think its too early to tell and not sure what your motivation to fear monger against the vaccine. Even if you don't want it, wouldn't it be better for you if all those around you got it?

I think it will be years before we really know, but fear mongering in either direction of this issue isn't helpful. Like most things in life, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle. Media being one extreme, and the covid doesn't exist crowd being the other in my small, limited thinking, sheepish, brainwashed, (trying to think of all the insults people will no doubt be thinking to save them the effort to name call) mind.

[MikePal]

actually 34% of the US have their first dose compared to 18% of Canada, so maybe its the almost double numbers of vaccine that is helping the US get back to normal.

Actually it's becasue the states have a greater % of their population ( thanks to Trump Supports) who have got the virus and recovered with natural herd immunity...because they didn't lock down and send their kids home.

Canada hung it's hat on keeping everyone home by LAW; closing by closing businesses, paying workers with CERB to refuse work and keeping the kids at home. They want 100% vaccinated ( with an experiment vaccine) and won't consider the fact that the greater herd immunity comes for natural letting people get sick and recovering.

[impact]

Sure. Just like people get a flu shot every fall to protect against the most prevalent strain of that year. Very few vaccines are "one and done." Most require booster shots at various intervals.

Sure, but never accompanied by stay at home orders and lockdowns.

[Badenoch]

Sure, but never accompanied by stay at home orders and lockdowns.

Quarantine, lockdowns are hardly new events. They were featured to a greater or lesser degree to combat polio, smallpox, Spanish flu and, if you go back far enough, the bubonic plague.

https://www.cdc.gov/polio/what-is-polio/polio-us.html

In the late 1940s, polio outbreaks in the U.S. increased in frequency and size, disabling an average of more than 35,000 people each year. Parents were frightened to let their children go outside, especially in the summer when the virus seemed to peak. Travel and commerce between affected cities were sometimes restricted. Public health officials imposed quarantines (used to separate and restrict the movement of well people who may have been exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become ill) on homes and towns where polio cases were diagnosed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-h...-idUKKBN21P1N2

For some elderly Moscow residents, the coronavirus lockdown has a familiar feel - they lived through something like it during a dramatic Soviet-era smallpox outbreak six decades ago.

That crisis, in 1960, was accompanied by emergency measures that were at times more draconian than this time round.

Moscow’s rail, road and air links with the rest of the country were partially suspended, and anyone who came into contact with an infected person was traced and quarantined.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...ic-history.htm

While the 1918 H1N1 virus has been synthesized and evaluated, the properties that made it so devastating are not well understood. With no vaccine to protect against influenza infection and no antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial infections that can be associated with influenza infections, control efforts worldwide were limited to non-pharmaceutical interventions such as isolation, quarantine, good personal hygiene, use of disinfectants, and limitations of public gatherings, which were applied unevenly.

[onelessarrow]

The truth is never in the middle when there's a criminal element behind it and nobody here has ever said covid-19 doesn't exist.
Asking questions and showing evidence contrary to their lies doesn't constitute fear-mongering either. If you want to see fear-mongering go back a year and see the original mask thread. That's where you'll see a cast of characters fear-mongering.

Just wait, we'll start seeing demanding pressure from those same ones that got the jab.

There's a doctor in the states who hasn't lost one patient to covid, over 5,000 patients he's saved using therapeutics and those being mostly elderly patients.
The evidence flies in face of their predictions and forced vaccines.
Let's not forget that half of the people are still conditioned from the original fear-mongering video of chinese people falling dead in the streets from a mysterious illness called covid-19.

This can only end with handcuffs.

[fishfood]

Sure. Just like people get a flu shot every fall to protect against the most prevalent strain of that year. Very few vaccines are "one and done." Most require booster shots at various intervals.

Just one problem we are 3 to 7 years early
for the vaccines we can't keep ignoring that this will all be experimental. Anything that comes out in the 3 year's will be before it'ss time and experimental .

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[Cameracutter]

According to MSM in Canada the new virus variants are wreaking havoc in the general population hence the stay ay home order and lockdowns.

As of April 2nd and according to the government 5.9 million doses of vaccine have so far been administered. This was directed at our most vulnerable population and support staff. This is 17% of our population which compares favourably with the USA at 20% who now enjoy a much greater degree of freedom and mobility. Basically, back to normal in many states.

So, given the supposedly current crisis we are in was it all for nothing? The doses do not protect against any variants?
Wash, rinse, repeat? A perpetual cycle of continuous vaccinations? Variant specific booster shots? I smell a big Pharma rat!

https://investors.modernatx.com/news...ecific-vaccine

https://www.who.int/influenza_vaccin...ectiveness.PDF

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...ine-safety/#a6

None of the vaccines are 100 percent effective. Any vaccine appears to reduce the severity of the disease and its variants.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...we-know-so-far

Interesting stat MikePal posted. Although the US approached did take 561,000 lives in a little over a year.

I guess time will tell, and those left standing can look back and decide who was right and who was wrong.

[Badenoch]

Just one problem we are 3 to 7 years early
for the vaccines we can't keep ignoring that this will all be experimental. Anything that comes out in the 3 year's will be before it'ss time and experimental .

The alternative is to live for the next 3 to 7 years as we have in the last year.