Health Care..

[MikePal]

Reminder when you complain about health care in Ontario, you have to keep in mind others don't have it so good :

[fishfood]

We have set our selves back a good 3 years in delayed surgeries here in Ontario.

They will have to work 10 % harder and more to complete the backlog of surgeries within the next few years. Many will die from the delay.

The UK is worse with a backlog of up to 5 years .


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[fishermccann]

I had a total right hip replacement in Sept. Everything great thanks. I know of someone in the States who got the same thing. It was 130 thousand US $ billed to his insurance co. His plan had a 5000 $ deductible that he paid. He said without the insurance, he could not have afforded the cost of the procedure, and would have had to endure the pain for the rest of his life. He is in his early 50's ,so he might have 30 years left. Much to long to suffer.

[Moosehead]

Yes, we can whine about stuff in Canada but we have good hospitals.
Been to Sick Kids a lot. Best staff and doctors I have ever seen.

[Jakezilla]

I had a total right hip replacement in Sept. Everything great thanks. I know of someone in the States who got the same thing. It was 130 thousand US $ billed to the insurance co.

If you start looking into those things in the states you will find that the bill is $130,000 and then after squabbling between the hospital and the insurance company the hospital will be paid a 1/4 of that by the insurance company, end of story. It's a racket, the hospitals and insurance companies are in it together.

[greatwhite]

You were lucky, the medical system is now saying it will take 3 years to clear the backlog and many will die while waiting.

I had a total right hip replacement in Sept. Everything great thanks. I know of someone in the States who got the same thing. It was 130 thousand US $ billed to his insurance co. His plan had a 5000 $ deductible that he paid. He said without the insurance, he could not have afforded the cost of the procedure, and would have had to endure the pain for the rest of his life. He is in his early 50's ,so he might have 30 years left. Much to long to suffer.

[fishfood]

My wife had a procedure done during the second wave, had to pay for it though. It's classified as cosmetic unless it was cancerous.



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[fishermccann]

Yes I was GW. As my original operation date was May , a four month delay was nothing to really complain about. It was only pain, not life threatening.

[Stu]

My wife started her first round of 6 months of chemo to treat Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma Mar.23/20. Her 69th birthday. About 2 - 3 weeks after it was done lumps started coming back. Another CT scan and blood work showed the lymphoma had morphed into a more aggressive type. Three months more of chemo, then off to Princess Margaret for even more aggressive chemo and other treatments and to gather her own stem cells to have them regenerated and grow more. Some more chemo, PET scans, etc: etc:. Stem cell started the day after her 70th birthday.
We are back and forth to Lake Ridge Cancer Clinic every week for blood work and injections of different types.
This has been quite a period of time for us. Without our health care here I doubt we would have been able to do all this.
No real assurances yet that we are in the clear. I have to give her a shot now. This just reminded me.

[JBen]

Always more than one way to look at a topic. When they finally, after 14 months of major hemorrhaging and botched biopsies found the cancerous tumor in my head. I had to wait 4 more months with a ticking time bomb, before it was surgically removed. Start to finish bordering on 2 years.

Cost me nothing. Because it has a very high rate of reoccurrence I spent the time researching. Found a place in San Fran where people are accurately diagnosed, and treated in 3-4 weeks.

When my fiancé was diagnosed with cancer in 2017, it took 4 months for treatment to begin. Chemo regime ended in Nov. Radiation started. After two doses of radiation, the results from genetic testing finally came back. Braca two positive. As a result, her entire family, and their children all genetically tested for free. Three months after testing positive, she had her ovaries removed. Six months later both breast. And if I recall 6-8 months later, reconstructive surgery. Most free, but we still paid thousands out of pocket. And some will argue, a waste of tax payer dollars because had the braca two gene been found at the get go....

Cost to tax payers. Likely in the hundreds of thousands. I recall her steroid shots ( bi weekly if I recall) were $2,500 each.

Are we better off than the US? Yes, when you look at it from one angle. No, when you look at it from another. Absolutely not, when you consider the taxes paid. Healthcare should be far better. Some studies suggest we are near “3rd world”, more realistically for what we pay, and the glaring problems, “value for the buck” on the whole.