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    Now there is a study done in the US that confirms the Israeli study: The vaccine's ability to fend off the virus (efficacy) diminishes quickly.

    All vaccines can protect against severe COVID-19 infections and death, even in the face of the Delta variant, but the data on the vaccines' efficacy has been mixed.

    The study used PCR testing data from the Mayo Clinic Health System's sites in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Arizona, Florida, and Iowa, to look for breakthrough coronavirus cases among 35,902 people fully vaccinated with Moderna and 37,573 people fully vaccinated with Pfizer. Some 40% of the people in the study were also over 65 years old.

    Over the course of the study in Minnesota, Moderna's vaccine was found to be 86% effective against a COVID-19 infection while Pfizer's was 76% effective. Both were also highly effective against hospitalization (Moderna 91.6%, Pfizer 85%), ICU admission (Moderna 93.3%, Pfizer 87%), and death from COVID-19 (no cases found).

    But what has caused concern is the data from July, when the Delta variant became the dominant strain in the US and accounted for more than 70% of cases in Minnesota.

    During that month in Minnesota, Pfizer's effectiveness against COVID-19 infection dropped to 42%, while Moderna's dropped less dramatically to 76%.

    Also: the article confirms that Pfizer is working on Covid Vaccine version 2.0...means we're back to standing in line this winter to update our vaccine passport or be faced with sanctions.

    Pfizer told Axios in a statement that it expected "to be able to develop and produce a tailor-made vaccine against" the Delta variant "in approximately 100 days after a decision to do so, subject to regulatory approval."
    read more...https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pfizers-va...105945416.html
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    All by design. A continued effort to inject people with increasing amounts of graphene.

    "Subsequently, in vivo studies indicated damage in the main organs of rats (liver, kidney, lungs, heart, brain and testis) but the possible fast clearance of GNPs through kidney. We also showed that GNPs induced oxidative stress in the liver."

    "Therefore, long-term, high dose, and careful selection of administration route using different animal models are crucial before seeking any clinical application of this ‘wonder material’."

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...drial%20damage.

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    It's a virus. It mutates just like the flu virus does every year and why there is a different flu shot every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    It's a virus. It mutates just like the flu virus does every year and why there is a different flu shot every year.
    We were warned of this a while ago by Michael Yeardon former CEO of Phyzer, Vaccinologists Geert Vanden Bosshe & Luc Montengier and now this guy the creator of MRNA vaccines Robert Malone.
    https://rumble.com/vkgi01-bombshell-...5JsgN9ph559w_s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    It's a virus. It mutates just like the flu virus does every year and why there is a different flu shot every year.
    The problem with that simplistic analogy is the annual flu shot is for Influenza, not Coronavirus.

    The problem with this Cornovirus vaccine is that the government has made the 'shot' mandatory and seeking to achieve 100 % of the population with sanctions if you do not participate. The annual 'flu' shots are always voluntary and usually accepted by about 40% of the population. (80 % seniors)

    We've achieved (almost) the Governments initial goal of 80% for herd immunity. There is no longer a threat to the Health Care system as the vaccines do indeed prevent Hospitalizations and Deaths for those vaccinated. The danger is over, mission accomplished.

    As far a varients, as the study has shown, 30% vaccinated can till can catch a variant, but it's symptoms are milder and no reported deaths..

    So are we going to continue to chase a vaccine that will prevent every Cornovirus variant that comes along and make them all 100% mandatory?

    Are we going to enter into yearly mass vaccination clinics trying to and eradicate a Coronvirus ? (Good luck with that) ....(see above video)

    I see the latest variant of concern (sorry interest) is the Lambda variant coming from South America...already in Quebec.

    I guess that will be Pfizer 3.0 late next summer. HaHa..
    Last edited by MikePal; August 15th, 2021 at 07:44 AM.

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    More side effects coming out from the mnra . But the WHO says the risk of the vaccine still out ways the risk of the virus . But for who ? In younger people the virus already has a slim and low risk why would we give them a shot that has little risk of a server cases. The annual flu put the kids at more of a risk . So at what age dose the risk of the shot outweigh the risk of the virus ? The evidence is clear that the regular flu is more harmful to our young. And the risk of death or sever under the age of 25 is rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    More side effects coming out from the mnra . But the WHO says the risk of the vaccine still out ways the risk of the virus . But for who ? In younger people the virus already has a slim and low risk why would we give them a shot that has little risk of a server cases. The annual flu put the kids at more of a risk . So at what age dose the risk of the shot outweigh the risk of the virus ? The evidence is clear that the regular flu is more harmful to our young. And the risk of death or sever under the age of 25 is rare.

    https://youtu.be/arpFrCME3o0

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    There is no benefit for young people, 360,000 case of myocarditis, people that support or endorse this are sick puppies.

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    The way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if we see history repeating itself. With the Spanish flu when they thought they had it under control it came back with a vengeance.

    We can see cases and ICU up well ahead of the season . Antibodies from the vaccine wearing off Delta becoming dominant this fall into winter could be a chit show as we deepen into the season.

    I hope for the best .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    The problem with that simplistic analogy is the annual flu shot is for Influenza, not Coronavirus.

    The problem with this Cornovirus vaccine is that the government has made the 'shot' mandatory and seeking to achieve 100 % of the population with sanctions if you do not participate. The annual 'flu' shots are always voluntary and usually accepted by about 40% of the population. (80 % seniors)

    We've achieved (almost) the Governments initial goal of 80% for herd immunity. There is no longer a threat to the Health Care system as the vaccines do indeed prevent Hospitalizations and Deaths for those vaccinated. The danger is over, mission accomplished.

    As far a varients, as the study has shown, 30% vaccinated can till can catch a variant, but it's symptoms are milder and no reported deaths..

    So are we going to continue to chase a vaccine that will prevent every Cornovirus variant that comes along and make them all 100% mandatory?

    Are we going to enter into yearly mass vaccination clinics trying to and eradicate a Coronvirus ? (Good luck with that) ....(see above video)

    I see the latest variant of concern (sorry interest) is the Lambda variant coming from South America...already in Quebec.

    I guess that will be Pfizer 3.0 late next summer. HaHa..
    The vaccines do reduce the chance of death and serious illness of the current strains. Currently in Ontario unvaccinated people are the vast majority of hospital admissions both in the ICUs and out. Hopefully that trend continues but there are no guarantees.

    We do annual flu campaigns so there is no reason we could not do annual campaigns for COVID although mass clinics may give way to physician and pharmacy-based distribution programs similar to the annual flu shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    The vaccines do reduce the chance of death and serious illness of the current strains. Currently in Ontario unvaccinated people are the vast majority of hospital admissions both in the ICUs and out. Hopefully that trend continues but there are no guarantees.

    We do annual flu campaigns so there is no reason we could not do annual campaigns for COVID although mass clinics may give way to physician and pharmacy-based distribution programs similar to the annual flu shot.
    What are you even talking about, annual covid vaccinations?...lmfao
    Two shots is considered fully vaccinated.
    Yearly covid vaccination is going to be met with noncompliance of the people who have been lied to about being fully vaccinated....
    You would have to be a real fool to line up every year for another covid shot when your supposedly fully vaxxed....
    Hilarious, how the weak minds are controlled by covid fear and vaccine passports....lmao
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