Stand on Crown Land

[hockeymjt]

I think your missing my point.
I leave a couple ladder stands on crown land, I had same scenerio happen 3 years ago, left my info, no contact, one afternoon walk in and someone in my stand, ask him if he got his note and all he said was first come first served

When I had asked the individual if he had seen my note there was zero need for attitude, had he been willing to discuss I am sure there would be a different response by me, but if someone shows that kind of attitude and tone, well FU, mister
Had he said something like yeah but sorry been busy and no chance to call or something then I was prepared to tell him when I normally hunt and if he could leave it fro me to hunt those day I am sure that would of worked it out, so with that attitude I certainly was not going to be reasonable in any way shape or form.
I have a farm we hunt and the person gave someone else permission as well, and we have an agreement and we have all hunted the same farm on the same day with zero issues EVER.

If people are reasonable, open minded it can all be worked out, but if one person is taking an ahole attitude I can be a perfect ahole.

I know I take a chance but I also expect everyone to be like me and be ethical and work together,

[Sam Menard]

I think your missing my point.
I leave a couple ladder stands on crown land, I had same scenerio happen 3 years ago, left my info, no contact, one afternoon walk in and someone in my stand, ask him if he got his note and all he said was first come first served

When I had asked the individual if he had seen my note there was zero need for attitude, had he been willing to discuss I am sure there would be a different response by me, but if someone shows that kind of attitude and tone, well FU, mister
Had he said something like yeah but sorry been busy and no chance to call or something then I was prepared to tell him when I normally hunt and if he could leave it fro me to hunt those day I am sure that would of worked it out, so with that attitude I certainly was not going to be reasonable in any way shape or form.
I have a farm we hunt and the person gave someone else permission as well, and we have an agreement and we have all hunted the same farm on the same day with zero issues EVER.

If people are reasonable, open minded it can all be worked out, but if one person is taking an ahole attitude I can be a perfect ahole.

I know I take a chance but I also expect everyone to be like me and be ethical and work together,

The law allows you to leave a treestand on Crown land. The stand belongs to you and you have the right to use it. It is not abandoned, so no one else should use it without your permission. It’s no different than parking your car along the side of the road.

In order to strengthen your claim of ownership of a stand, I suggest leaving a message affixed to it e.g.: “ This stand belongs to Joe Smith and was lawfully erected on October 5 2021 in accordance with the Public Lands Act and it’s Regulations. Private property!”

[gbk]

The law allows you to leave a treestand on Crown land. The stand belongs to you and you have the right to use it. It is not abandoned, so no one else should use it without your permission. It’s no different than parking your car along the side of the road.

In order to strengthen your claim of ownership of a stand, I suggest leaving a message affixed to it e.g.: “ This stand belongs to Joe Smith and was lawfully erected on October 5 2021 in accordance with the Public Lands Act and it’s Regulations. Private property!”

X 2- and for the ones hell bent -it is OK to use the stand built by someone else-how about the guy who wants to use other ppls hard work-erect his stand nearby?
He would do at least part of the work(scouting was already done for him!)but at least he would show sort of involvement and a respect for other ppls property.

At the end-if one has so much ethics to use it ,then be respectful and get out if the LEGAL owner asks You to do so-for his own use on the day.

If no one shows up on your hunt( in someone else's stand)-to claim his own stand for use-so much better for You.Do your hunt ,and be happy.

[greatwhite]

I am not fimilair as to where it states in the law that a spot becomes yours if your stand is on it. My understanding is on crown first come first serve. However I think respectable hunters would not take someone else stand. I have never had anyone take my spot yet (Knock wood).

But if they did I guess I would try and reason with them and if that didn't work I would just move on. I am quite capable of finding another spot. But I would remove my stand the earliest possible chance when they were not there. Would take me all of 1 hour to dismantle the tree stand.

[Gilroy]

The law allows you to leave a treestand on Crown land. The stand belongs to you and you have the right to use it. It is not abandoned, so no one else should use it without your permission. It’s no different than parking your car along the side of the road.

In order to strengthen your claim of ownership of a stand, I suggest leaving a message affixed to it e.g.: “ This stand belongs to Joe Smith and was lawfully erected on October 5 2021 in accordance with the Public Lands Act and it’s Regulations. Private property!”

There is no question a hunter is allowed to erect a tree stand on Crown land, the burning question is for how LONG?

Your take appears to be it stays until the end of the hunting season and as I pointed out there are many seasons you can run into back to back, starting with a Spring bear hunt and ending with a late season Moose hunt.

The problem is that some folk's leave their stand on purpose year after year in order to have EXCLUSIVE POSSESSION of an area of land to hunt on year after year to the exclusion of other hunters.

If you have built a permanent stand made of wood or what ever that cannot be easily removed IMHO its open to be used and its there against the spirit of the law.

If its a steel ladder stand affixed to a tree and easily removable then you would have to move off it if an owner arrived.

But that stand must be removed.

"Hunters must remove any temporary structures including tree stands placed on Crown land."


https://news.ontario.ca/en/backgroun...hunting-season

[Sam Menard]

I am not fimilair as to where it states in the law that a spot becomes yours if your stand is on it. My understanding is on crown first come first serve.

The law allows you to hang a stand, that’s it. The regulation doesn’t convey exclusive use to the surrounding area. A person would require legal possession of the land (either conveyed in the legislation or by an instrument e.g. a permit) to claim the surrounding area for themselves.

It all comes down to courtesy, respect and good manners. Unfortunately some people haven’t any at all.

[dean.f]

Is it any different than sitting on somebody's dock at their waterfront?

I don't have a dime invested in the argument since I don't leave stands, or use other's stands. But the duck blinds have been mentioned and I have used another person's blind before, if I was challenged I would likely just move on or invite them in, depending on circumstance.

[Sam Menard]

There is no question a hunter is allowed to erect a tree stand on Crown land, the burning question is for how LONG?

Your take appears to be it stays until the end of the hunting season and as I pointed out there are many seasons you can run into back to back, starting with a Spring bear hunt and ending with a late season Moose hunt.

The problem is that some folk's leave their stand on purpose year after year in order to have EXCLUSIVE POSSESSION of an area of land to hunt on year after year to the exclusion of other hunters.

If you have built a permanent stand made of wood or what ever that cannot be easily removed IMHO its open to be used and its there against the spirit of the law.

If its a steel ladder stand affixed to a tree and easily removable then you would have to move off it if an owner arrived.

But that stand must be removed.

"Hunters must remove any temporary structures including tree stands placed on Crown land."


https://news.ontario.ca/en/backgroun...hunting-season

As long as the owner/or designate has a valid licence, during an open season, is hunting or plans to continue hunting from it, then the stand can remain. At the conclusion of the hunt, then the stand is supposed to be removed. Unless someone complains and the MNR deems the matter serious e.g. a sustainability issue, not much is going to happen.

Abandoned property found on Crown land becomes property of the Crown and can be sold.

[Sam Menard]

Is it any different than sitting on somebody's dock at their waterfront?

I don't have a dime invested in the argument since I don't leave stands, or use other's stands. But the duck blinds have been mentioned and I have used another person's blind before, if I was challenged I would likely just move on or invite them in, depending on circumstance.

The same regulation allows you to construct a dock in front of your cottage. The dock belongs to you - your property and liability. The regulation also treats a duck blind and treestand the same… same rules.

[Gilroy]

As long as the owner/or designate has a valid licence, during an open season, is hunting or plans to continue hunting from it, then the stand can remain. At the conclusion of the hunt, then the stand is supposed to be removed. Unless someone complains and the MNR deems the matter serious e.g. a sustainability issue, not much is going to happen.

Abandoned property found on Crown land becomes property of the Crown and can be sold.

Ok I will play the game with you, I put up my ladder stand at the start of Spring Bear hunt and hunt out of it a few weekends.

Is this the end of the hunt OR CAN I leave the stand there until the start of bow Season for deer several months later?

Is the stand abandoned property between Spring Bear and fall deer season and can be removed.

It is my belief that a tree stand is "any thing" under the public lands act and the 21 day rule applies for its removal.