Self defence shooting case before SCC

[NJohnson]

Well maybe "hunting" down and killing a unarmed man.

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[410001661]

Well maybe "hunting" down and killing a unarmed man.

Maybe it was a case of the hunted that became the hunted?

[Gun Nut]

He grabbed his shotgun from the bedroom closet, loaded it with two shells and "quietly" approached the truck ... Khill saw someone bent over the passenger seat and yelled, "Hey, hands up," and when the person turned toward him, Khill fired twice, ...

I’ve got it. He didn’t give the suspect any time to put his hands up, before he shot. nor did he give the suspect any chance to shoot at him, if he had a gun. Clearly an open and shut case, he had no way of recognizing if his suspect was armed, so he could not actually know he was shooting in self defence. I’m reminded of the police officer who yell at a bank robber to haul, at which point the bank robber wheeled around and shot the officer in the head. It is really kind of strange how acting in self defence has to work. It appears to completely overlook that a crime was in progress.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

[JoePa]

Ok - if that happened to me down here this is what I would have done - get my loaded gun from the night stand next to the bed - grab a flash light - then go outside and put the light on the guy while pointing the gun at him - I would tell him if he moves he's dead - I would then call 911 on my iPhone and wait for the cops to arrive - now if the guy moves like gets out of the truck and comes towards me or I would again tell him I will shoot him - if he keeps coming at me I have no recourse but to shoot - I wouldn't like to do that but at that point my life is in danger and one of us is going to win - now the cops come and want to know what happened - I tell them he guy tried to take my gun and I shot him in self defense - I would probably get a medal for taking a crook off the streets - now if the guy in the truck gets out and starts running away I would just fire a couple rounds into the air over his head - I think he won't be trying to steal my truck again - unless he's really stupid

[MikePal]

By the time you did all that Joe, most Canadians would have had to go down 3 flights to the basement, took time to open the safe, the open another cabinet to get some ammo, then back up two flights and try and find a flashlight.

By then all you'd see was your truck taillights rounding the corner HaHa..

[Badenoch]

By the time you did all the Joe, most Canadians would have had to go down 3 flights to the basement, took time to open the safe, the open another cabinet to get some ammo, then back up two flights and try and find a flashlight.

By then all you'd see was your truck taillights rounding the corner HaHa..

Seeing his truck rounding the corner would have been a better outcome for Khill.

[taxwizz]

In Canada the law is on the side of the criminal, not the victim. If approached by a criminal, just give him all your assets, run away, and hope he lets you live.

[Cameracutter]

Ok - if that happened to me down here this is what I would have done - get my loaded gun from the night stand next to the bed - grab a flash light - then go outside and put the light on the guy while pointing the gun at him - I would tell him if he moves he's dead - I would then call 911 on my iPhone and wait for the cops to arrive - now if the guy moves like gets out of the truck and comes towards me or I would again tell him I will shoot him - if he keeps coming at me I have no recourse but to shoot - I wouldn't like to do that but at that point my life is in danger and one of us is going to win - now the cops come and want to know what happened - I tell them he guy tried to take my gun and I shot him in self defense - I would probably get a medal for taking a crook off the streets - now if the guy in the truck gets out and starts running away I would just fire a couple rounds into the air over his head - I think he won't be trying to steal my truck again - unless he's really stupid

If the gun is in one hand, the flashlight is in the other, how are you going to call 911?

[Gun Nut]

In Canada the law is on the side of the criminal, not the victim. If approached by a criminal, just give him all your assets, run away, and hope he lets you live.

Right, or you could stand there and ape the Buddhist, and ask him to thank you. That way if stop later by the police, the thief could indicate he did not steal anything. He simply received them as gifts and thank the giver. If then the police question you about the things, you can tell them they were gifts for which you received a thank you.
Where this becomes tricky is if he takes your firearm and he doesn't have a PAL.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

[JoePa]

If the gun is in one hand, the flashlight is in the other, how are you going to call 911?

The flash light is one of those very small Led lights that clips on to the gun - or I can ask the crook to hold the light while I call the cops