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November 22nd, 2021, 03:31 PM
#61

Originally Posted by
MikePal
And yet ...the zealots are scrambling to inject THAT into their kids.....really makes one shake their heads...
Have you ever had any kind of medicine, shot, vaccine ... anything?
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November 22nd, 2021 03:31 PM
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November 22nd, 2021, 03:59 PM
#62
I'll just leave this here ... and by the way this echos exactly what my close contact doctor friend says, who interfaces with COVID care.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-wearing-thin
I believe this is a good balanced perspective.
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November 22nd, 2021, 04:36 PM
#63

Originally Posted by
MarkB
That's interesting prospective,
Should the citizens who pay anonymous so-called doctor salary also stop paying taxes from this good balanced prospective?
Cuz if we go all way, let's go all the way.
It's not very balanced if it didn't consider any other angles of the issue
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November 22nd, 2021, 04:46 PM
#64
Any of these doctors patience ever run thin with all the drug addicts and fat slobs they had to treat over the years?
What about gang bangers that have bullet holes in them from fighting over drug territory?
Or is that different?
Any time I've been to the hospital in my 34 years on this earth it's completely packed, everytime. Waited 8hrs in ER waiting room with a collapsed lung with pneumonia last time I was there 15 years ago. Havnt been back since, Hell my health card expired 2 years ago, Don't plan on going back.
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"If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective."
-Ted Nugent
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November 22nd, 2021, 05:23 PM
#65
In the USA and Germany, high-level officials have used the term pandemic of the unvaccinated, suggesting that people who have been vaccinated are not relevant in the epidemiology of COVID-19. Officials’ use of this phrase might have encouraged one scientist to claim that “the unvaccinated threaten the vaccinated for COVID-19”. But this view is far too simple.
There is increasing evidence that vaccinated individuals continue to have a relevant role in transmission. In Massachusetts, USA, a total of 469 new COVID-19 cases were detected during various events in July, 2021, and 346 (74%) of these cases were in people who were fully or partly vaccinated, 274 (79%) of whom were symptomatic. Cycle threshold values were similarly low between people who were fully vaccinated (median 22·8) and people who were unvaccinated, not fully vaccinated, or whose vaccination status was unknown (median 21·5), indicating a high viral load even among people who were fully vaccinated.
In the USA, a total of 10 262 COVID-19 cases were reported in vaccinated people by April 30, 2021, of whom 2725 (26·6%) were asymptomatic, 995 (9·7%) were hospitalised, and 160 (1·6%) died. In Germany, 55·4% of symptomatic COVID-19 cases in patients aged 60 years or older were in fully vaccinated individuals, and this proportion is increasing each week. In Münster, Germany, new cases of COVID-19 occurred in at least 85 (22%) of 380 people who were fully vaccinated or who had recovered from COVID-19 and who attended a nightclub.
People who are vaccinated have a lower risk of severe disease but are still a relevant part of the pandemic. It is therefore wrong and dangerous to speak of a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Historically, both the USA and Germany have engendered negative experiences by stigmatising parts of the population for their skin colour or religion. I call on high-level officials and scientists to stop the inappropriate stigmatisation of unvaccinated people, who include our patients, colleagues, and other fellow citizens, and to put extra effort into bringing society together.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...KHDyY0StRHrbPk
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November 22nd, 2021, 08:34 PM
#66

Originally Posted by
MarkB
That's the People's choice to inject what ever into them.
Doctors have jobs that's their job seems like they wanted to ban guns to because they were tired of gun shot victims.
Maybe we should have Banned all guns because they keep the doctors busy with bullet wounds.
The problem lays with the overwhelmed hospitals they have also chosen not to fix that problem.
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Last edited by fishfood; November 22nd, 2021 at 09:59 PM.
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November 23rd, 2021, 08:35 AM
#67
Senior BBC reporter Rich Preston
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November 23rd, 2021, 10:21 AM
#68

Originally Posted by
SongDog
Any of these doctors patience ever run thin with all the drug addicts and fat slobs they had to treat over the years?
What about gang bangers that have bullet holes in them from fighting over drug territory?
Or is that different?
Any time I've been to the hospital in my 34 years on this earth it's completely packed, everytime. Waited 8hrs in ER waiting room with a collapsed lung with pneumonia last time I was there 15 years ago. Havnt been back since, Hell my health card expired 2 years ago, Don't plan on going back.
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So you're putting the non-vaccinated in the same group as drug addicts, fat slobs, and gangsters ... okay, got it.
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November 23rd, 2021, 10:22 AM
#69

Originally Posted by
newbiehunter
That's interesting prospective,
Should the citizens who pay anonymous so-called doctor salary also stop paying taxes from this good balanced prospective?
Cuz if we go all way, let's go all the way.
It's not very balanced if it didn't consider any other angles of the issue
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You know what's probably wearing him thin??
All these COVID deniers ... that end up in hospital, and then realize the mistake they made when they are busy dying on an ICU bed.
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November 23rd, 2021, 10:27 AM
#70

Originally Posted by
MarkB
So you're putting the non-vaccinated in the same group as drug addicts, fat slobs, and gangsters ... okay, got it.
Well that's their job to treat people it doesn't matter what it's from.
Are they not tired of the vaccine side effects that are leaving hundreds of people per week to seek medical attention?.
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