Trying to take a page from the Canadian Firearm Act are we?

[Gun Nut]

The father did not do what "was necessary" to prevent the kid from getting the gun. He had no problem getting it, showing it off on social media, bragging that it was his and then taking it to school and killing 4 people.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/michig...than-crumbley/

Right! After, it would appear, he did a thorough search of the house to locate the gun, where his father had hind it It is not clear his parents did much more to facilitate what happen, beyond not taking him home with them after they had their meeting with the
school's representatives. Nor do I think, having the gun disabled by a locking device would have done much to prevent this kid from hatching his plan.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

[Badenoch]

Right! After, it would appear, he did a thorough search of the house to locate the gun, where his father had hind it It is not clear his parents did much more to facilitate what happen, beyond not taking him home with them after they had their meeting with the
school's representatives. Nor do I think, having the gun disabled by a locking device would have done much to prevent this kid from hatching his plan.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

The parents who attempted to flee in the aftermath of the shooting and are currently cooling their heels in a Michigan jail because they can't afford the half-million dollar bond can try and sell that sob story to a judge.

[mosquito]

mosquito,

" Yet our current govt is claiming the law abiding are a problem and their firearms need to be seized, while using the secrecy act to shut down questions about the OIC."


Perhaps the present government is simply following the precedent set by past Conservative governments?


https://ipolitics.ca/2015/09/02/two-...ent-canadians/

You don't seem to understand so let me explain, first off in the article, the Libs actually did it first. Second so do you think it is in national security or defence not to tell a federal judge why they are seizing law abiding citizens property, spending about $700M+? I mean, if your point is to say the Conservatives did it first then read your own article, the Liberals did it first actually and if it is the second then the about 100,000 firearm owners are a threat? The govt own statistics show that the owners as a threat is b.s, seems they don't have a reason and hate telling the facts.

That video reference I would say is about the Liberal abuse of power and coverups, it is about a publicly known OIC order that affect about 100,000 owners and the reason for it is being requested is to a Federal judge, NOT the public. The Libs have a long history abusing privilege and non disclosure, such as the case on the Winnipeg lab, the WE Charity, SNC investigations etc. Here, if is more a Wuhan Pneumonia thing but abusing privilege is a common thread.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...by-failing-to/


As for the case of the boy at 15 he should have known better, in many countries would be an adult and he is being tried as such and depending one of the many mishmash of laws that each state has (about what Trudeau is trying to copy with handgun bans by municipalities) there could be unsafe storage, crossing borders and a huge variety of laws that will come in play and I wouldn't trust the media to disclose without a few references. They say he was being bullied but unless he actually felt there was a threat to himself or his family imminently there is no justification, he is responsible, beyond that is right now speculation and the local laws.
https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/citation/quotes/7376

[JoePa]

Well let me tell you something - find the answer as to why back in the late 40s and 50s when guns were readily available there were no mass shootings - but today it is common - there is your answer - I know what it is -

[Tigboy 304]

Well let me tell you something - find the answer as to why back in the late 40s and 50s when guns were readily available there were no mass shootings - but today it is common - there is your answer - I know what it is -

I also know the answer Joe but unfortunately if we told the masses here I know of a few certain individuals would have a total meltdown being confronted with the truth.

[Gun Nut]

Well let me tell you something - find the answer as to why back in the late 40s and 50s when guns were readily available there were no mass shootings - but today it is common - there is your answer - I know what it is -

When confront with such a question my starting point is the fact that the world is in an over population crisis. As a result people continue to get on to each others nerves, and the stress is pushing people over the edge, particularly the younger generations. There is more to it but you have the fundamentals of the beginning.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

[Cameracutter]

I also know the answer Joe but unfortunately if we told the masses here I know of a few certain individuals would have a total meltdown being confronted with the truth.

You mean confronted with your opinion.

[Badenoch]

Setting aside the broader societal issues of why Americans so casually accept the regular slaughter of children in their classrooms or people at theaters, concerts, night clubs, etc. the point is responsible gun owners do what it takes to keep firearms out of the wrong hands especially if those wrong hands live under the same roof. When they don't and their guns are used to kill someone the owners deserve to have the full weight of the law fall upon them.

[johnjyb]

You mean confronted with your opinion.

This statement is correct as no one person knows all the reasons for what in my opinion has become a disfunctional society, but I believe among the top three are the breakdown of family values, massive media flamed hysteria as well as the political correctness movements of many minorities such as BLM, Q, ACM, LGBQ and a host of other acronyms.
Again, just my opinion but you can add your letter and ideas to the list.
If you think I am wrong, respectfully tell me why and don't just call me a bigot, racist or fascist as I am pretty sure you do not know my race, religion or medical status.
John

[Badenoch]

The societal issues are not an excuse for a Michigan gun owner who bought a handgun and left it within easy reach of a kid that he knew had some serious emotional issues.