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January 31st, 2022, 12:52 PM
#231

Originally Posted by
Terrible_E
Why weren't the people with Nazi flags kicked out?
All the other rhetoric aside can someone explain to me why these "patriots" didn't kick the people holding Nazi flags out? I keep hearing that these truckers are fighting for our freedoms and yet they tolerate the symbols of hate and oppression being displayed at their protest.
The few I saw had Justin's face in it.
They were more like anti nazi signs showing the way justin is moving us .
He won't even talk to them because they don't share the same views .
But he stands behind other violent criminal protest. Sad
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January 31st, 2022 12:52 PM
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January 31st, 2022, 12:53 PM
#232
Well drinking water is a necessity of life, hanging out with Nazis isn't.
It's not a poor argument because it speaks to the level of organization and legitimacy of the protest.
So these truckers feel so strongly about "rights and freedoms" that they will break the law to disturb people living downtown but they won't break the law to insure that their protest is kept free of symbols of hate.
Dancing on the tomb of the unknown soldier. Desecration of the Terry Fox monument. Why didn't these "patriots" place those people under citizens arrest? Surely they feel so strongly about their civic duties that they know the lawful procedure for placing another citizen under arrest.
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January 31st, 2022, 12:54 PM
#233

Originally Posted by
Terrible_E
So I guess no one can explain why the "supporting rights and freedoms" truckers allowed the Nazis to stick around?
Seems like if you want to be taken seriously you shouldn't let the Nazis hang out with you. My grandfather killed Nazis with a tank back in the 40's. If sure he is sitting pretty in his grave knowing that "people fighting for freedoms" are dancing on the tomb of the unknown soldier.
If you want to be taken seriously you need to be organized and disciplined. This is a bunch of grown toddlers throwing a hissy fit while bamboozeling people out of money via a go-fund-me.
I'm sure most of our Grandparents killed Nazi's or helped with the effort so that you could share that opinion with us. I'm certain my Grandfathers would've slapped me if I shared the same opinion as you though. A million+ people peacefully protesting is a highly organized and disciplined event in my mind. The grown toddlers throwing hissy fits all seem to be on the internet throwing about false allegations of bamboozling money. As for the girl dancing on the cenotaph I know my Grandfather spent about as much time in the stockade as he did in the air bombing Rommel and the Officers Hall and would've probably appreciated the lap dance even if he was dead.
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January 31st, 2022, 12:55 PM
#234

Originally Posted by
fishfood
The few I saw had Justin's face in it.
They were more like anti nazi signs showing the way justin is moving us .
He won't even talk to them because they don't share the same views .
But he stands behind other violent criminal protest. Sad
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There's a $6500 reward for his identity I'd post a link but I think that's against the rules.
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January 31st, 2022, 01:18 PM
#235

Originally Posted by
Terrible_E
Well drinking water is a necessity of life, hanging out with Nazis isn't.
It's not a poor argument because it speaks to the level of organization and legitimacy of the protest.
So these truckers feel so strongly about "rights and freedoms" that they will break the law to disturb people living downtown but they won't break the law to insure that their protest is kept free of symbols of hate.
Dancing on the tomb of the unknown soldier. Desecration of the Terry Fox monument. Why didn't these "patriots" place those people under citizens arrest? Surely they feel so strongly about their civic duties that they know the lawful procedure for placing another citizen under arrest.
With so many people each person going has their own views don't blame the truckers for a small number of people that have a different mind set on going.
The truckers don't support them.
Maybe we need a biker rally oh boy the intimidating bikers oh no lol.
They are sweet at heart tho but the media would ball up run lol. Wonder what they would say to that.
Haven't met one I don't like they are just humans the same as you and me that enjoy the freedom of their bikes.
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January 31st, 2022, 01:18 PM
#236

Originally Posted by
GloryHole
I'm sure most of our Grandparents killed Nazi's or helped with the effort so that you could share that opinion with us. I'm certain my Grandfathers would've slapped me if I shared the same opinion as you though. A million+ people peacefully protesting is a highly organized and disciplined event in my mind. The grown toddlers throwing hissy fits all seem to be on the internet throwing about false allegations of bamboozling money. As for the girl dancing on the cenotaph I know my Grandfather spent about as much time in the stockade as he did in the air bombing Rommel and the Officers Hall and would've probably appreciated the lap dance even if he was dead.
It wasn't/isn't peaceful though. 4 men surrounded and threatened my friend with gangrape because she had a mask on. Luckily some cops materialized out of no where and escorted her out of there. Idiots where trying to flip a car, too drunk to succeed though. Not to mention the countless people having a Vietnam Era psy op launched against them with the horns going all night. I guess collateral damage is perfectly fine as long as you get to turn downtown into a giant tail gate party.
A protest is an organized demonstration with a clear mandate and defined goals. This is......no where close to that. They have 8 million dollars in go-fund-me money but can't afford to get a fuel truck driven in. They couldn't get port-a-potties in or secure any permits. So now there is piss and on the streets.
Mark my words, when the dust settles nothing will have changed the money will be gone and the organizers will be no where to be found. Everyone allowing themselves to get wrapped up in this are suckers who deserve to have their money stolen. This is a mob not a protest and the difference between those two things are people embracing democracy despite its flaws and people thinking that if they bully enough they can have their way.
It's nice to have something clever to say about the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier but I noticed you didn't have a cute line explaining away why we should care about Terry Fox being defaced.
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January 31st, 2022, 01:23 PM
#237

Originally Posted by
fishfood
With so many people each person going has their own views don't blame the truckers for a small number of people that have a different mind set on going.
The truckers don't support them.
Maybe we need a biker rally oh boy the intimidating bikers oh no lol.
They are sweet at heart tho but the media would ball up run lol. Wonder what they would say to that.
Haven't met one I don't like they are just humans the same as you and me that enjoy the freedom of their bikes.
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I absolutely can blame anyone who allows Nazis to exist in their presence. It's an ideology incompatible with the peaceful existence of life. You either crush it out or you're supporting it to some degree.
Not sure what motorcycle clubs have to do with this.
Motorcycle clubs like the HA are criminal organizations that cook and sell drugs like meth and engage in human trafficing. But I'm sure they are very nice people, right? That's what your saying, the people who kidnapp and traffic women to be raped several times a day are a good group of misunderstood fellas?
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January 31st, 2022, 01:27 PM
#238

Originally Posted by
Terrible_E
Well drinking water is a necessity of life, hanging out with Nazis isn't.
It's not a poor argument because it speaks to the level of organization and legitimacy of the protest.
Why didn't these "patriots" place those people under citizens arrest? Surely they feel so strongly about their civic duties that they know the lawful procedure for placing another citizen under arrest.
Would disagree - it is very poor argument, because it based on nothing... Would you be kind enough to share where I can see the "hanging out with Nazis" part ?
there is a SINGLE picture of some kid carrying the swastika flag while clearly "passing by" some other people hanging out on a bench.. Something that should be mentioned that picture was NOT even taken on the Parliament hill but in some park (which could be anywhere away from centre of the events for all we know)...
There is also another video where some other MASKED person carrying the confederate flag on the parliament hill that was asked to leave by the trackers
( https://rumble.com/vtni4t-crowd-booi...in-ottawa.html)
So there we have it -
2 "questionably confirmed" instances out of the 15k-25k protest participants.
Is that enough justification to question the legitimacy of the whole protest with those 2 ?
Another question to ask about that Nazi flag -- why wouldn't the person taking the pic of the flag did not "place those people under citizens arrest" but ran to submit this picture to the news?
Who knows, but this may have been antifa infiltrators working specifically to so MSM has something to latch onto - very well known tactic that been used in the past..
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January 31st, 2022, 01:29 PM
#239

Originally Posted by
JoePa
And as far as not demonstrating like the Americans - well let me tell you something - unless you cause problems no one will pay attention to you - I still say this demonstration up in Canada will change nothing unless the people shut the country and government down -
I’m sorry but maybe I’ve gone a bit nutty. You see, I think I live in Canada. I think I have freedom of expression, freedom of speech and freedom of peaceful assembly. None of those freedoms mean I can do what I want, when I want. There are always boundaries, and rightfully so. Perhaps in America violence is an acceptable manner to be heard, but it sure sounds like they just give in to a screaming toddler. That’s just not the Canadian way. Actually it’s not even the democratic way.
For those of you that seem to easily compare our “tyrannical” government with China or North Korea or Nazi Germany……..damn it, give you’re head a shake. Look at all the freedoms we enjoy that others do not.
Let the protesters protest! There’s always bad apples in every crowd, we can’t solely focus on that. The organizers would have done themselves a favour to condemn those actions. So far it’s been fairly peaceful and without major incident. Once they have outstayed there welcome the city will deal with it.
Their point was made, they are against the vaccine mandates. If they think a prolonged stay will change anything, it’s time to reflect on reality. It’s not in any governments best interest to bow down to protesters.
The supposed division in the country is being over played. Sure the PM said a bunch of stuff about anti-vaxxers but we know not everyone listens to the government so just move on.
The msm is as bad as it’s counter part the nmsm (not so mainstream media). Stop listening to both and you will be free.
We’re all fed up of the situation, it sucks. Anxiously waiting for change sucks. But it doesn’t mean it’s not coming. Stay positive.
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January 31st, 2022, 01:35 PM
#240

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
The msm is as bad as it’s counter part the nmsm (not so mainstream media). Stop listening to both and you will be free.
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Nmsm - love it
Gonna have to steal that pharse from you [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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