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March 6th, 2022, 01:14 PM
#281
Originally Posted by
johnjyb
Straw poll says............. All ex LEOs believe it was a justified murder, the other 99.7 % of the population think what happened is wrong but the investigation result was expected. Carry on as you were, unless you are now dead.
John
The only person you can express an opinion for is yourself, you do not speak for 99.7% of the population, as most all of them have expressed no opinion.
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March 6th, 2022 01:14 PM
# ADS
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March 6th, 2022, 01:57 PM
#282
Originally Posted by
MikePal
HaHa..it'll be a battle of common sense vs. blind loyalty...
No its about EVIDENCE, forensic evidence ,eye witness evidence. There was sufficient information to obtain a search warrant which was presented to a justice under oath. The Police were legally placed on the scene, the execution of the warrant may not have been the best nor the actions of the deceased. The best witness would have been the customer in the shop and if his account was way off some officers may already have been charged. IMHO
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March 6th, 2022, 02:59 PM
#283
Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Nope, not “blind”. More like “experienced”…!
Really Rick...you've shot a 70 yr old man on his own property, working in his shop and beat being charged ..doesn't sound like it's hard to do ?
The inability of the SIU to produce a report that recommends charges laid against an officer is dismall....
Facts 2020-2021:
Charge Cases
Criminal
charges were laid by the SIU Director in 12 cases, against a total of 14 officers,
representing 3.0% of the 397 cases that were closed for the fiscal year.
Total Closed Cases
70.8% (281 cases) of total cases closed resulted in no charges (Director’s Report cases), 26.2% were closed by memo or terminated,
3% resulted in charges laid against the officers.
I also read, the fact is over 30% of charges against officer are withdrawn before trial...
Doesn't look like holding bad cops' accountable to the public is a big part of the SIU's mandate, does it ?
from: https://www.siu.on.ca/en/annual_report_2020.php#s_13
Last edited by MikePal; March 6th, 2022 at 03:18 PM.
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March 6th, 2022, 03:31 PM
#284
Originally Posted by
MikePal
Really Rick...you've shot a 70 yr old man on his own property, working in his shop and beat being charged ..doesn't sound like it's hard to do ?
The inability of the SIU to produce a report that recommends charges laid against an officer is dismall....
Facts 2020-2021:
I also read, the fact is over 30% of charges against officer are withdrawn before trial...
Doesn't look like holding bad cops' accountable to the public is a big part of the SIU's mandate, does it ?
from:
https://www.siu.on.ca/en/annual_report_2020.php#s_13
When did I say that ??? More “supposin”…..
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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March 6th, 2022, 03:34 PM
#285
Originally Posted by
MikePal
Really Rick...you've shot a 70 yr old man on his own property, working in his shop and beat being charged ..doesn't sound like it's hard to do ?
The inability of the SIU to produce a report that recommends charges laid against an officer is dismall....
Facts 2020-2021:
I also read, the fact is over 30% of charges against officer are withdrawn before trial...
Doesn't look like holding bad cops' accountable to the public is a big part of the SIU's mandate, does it ?
from:
https://www.siu.on.ca/en/annual_report_2020.php#s_13
Or it could be they acted as they should off.
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty or is it sling mud till it sticks.
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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March 6th, 2022, 04:13 PM
#286
To me it is pretty simple , though sad. He was told to put his gun down several times; he refused to. When you are told to put your gun down ..... do it!
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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March 6th, 2022, 06:16 PM
#287
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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March 6th, 2022, 07:42 PM
#288
Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Second last sentence from the article......
[COLOR=#191919]If the SIU’s findings are accurate then all we know for sure is that his decisions, his actions, have led to several tragedies, including his own death.
There are many ways to write up a story
"Everything is easy when you know how"
"Meat is not grown in stores"
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March 6th, 2022, 09:14 PM
#289
Originally Posted by
fratri
Second last sentence from the article......
[COLOR=#191919]If the SIU’s findings are accurate then all we know for sure is that his decisions, his actions, have led to several tragedies, including his own death.
There are many ways to write up a story
You forgot to post this part ..….. With four guns unaccounted for from Kotanko’s stockpile, police worry there will be a future tragedy like the one that befell Caden Francis.
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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March 6th, 2022, 10:27 PM
#290
Originally Posted by
rick_iles
You forgot to post this part ..….. With four guns unaccounted for from Kotanko’s stockpile, police worry there will be a future tragedy like the one that befell Caden Francis.
I guess with him being dead, he wont be able to help answer to those allegations 
"Everything is easy when you know how"
"Meat is not grown in stores"
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