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    Nice, now ex LEOs are blaming future crimes on a 70 year old man executed by police who is supposed to be innocent because there might be missing property that could be used in a future crime. It never ends, just keep piling it on a dead man and hope something sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    You forgot to post this part ..….. With four guns unaccounted for from Kotanko’s stockpile, police worry there will be a future tragedy like the one that befell Caden Francis.
    It's a legitimate concern. There were four guns missing that Kotanko was responsible for two of which were involved in serious crimes. When police came to ask about them he reached for a pistol and pointed it at the officers.

    It's entirely possible Rodger wasn't the saint everyone claims he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon View Post
    To me it is pretty simple , though sad. He was told to put his gun down several times; he refused to. When you are told to put your gun down ..... do it!
    This is highly questionable. No video or audio recording exists. The witnesses were given time to get their stories together.
    We don't know that CW#2 interview confirms the narrative, perhaps it's simply does NOT contradict it.
    What would someone remember from police bursting in, shooting someone in front of you in the head, drugging you to the ground and cuffing you?
    I can guarantee they won't remember many details, especially looking the the police, not the victim.
    Did the shooter yell police before or after shooting? Did they yell at all?

    However, I don't blame the shooter, I blame everyone who planned this sh.t show.
    The policy are incompetent. Just another branch of a dysfunctional government.
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    I find it absolutely ridiculous that all police involved did not have body cams running during the operation. I would have thought it would be a no-brainer for operations like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fratri View Post
    I guess with him being dead, he wont be able to help answer to those allegations
    No but his wife probably has a good idea of what was going on in the business and you can bet your last dollar she will be asked lots of questions.

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    Not everyone's wife knows all their business. Heck I no things about my father that my mother doesn't business wise.

    The only thing my wife knows about my side things are my primary job. Heck she doesn't even know what I earn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    No but his wife probably has a good idea of what was going on in the business and you can bet your last dollar she will be asked lots of questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenelon View Post
    I find it absolutely ridiculous that all police involved did not have body cams running during the operation. I would have thought it would be a no-brainer for operations like this.
    Those cams would definitely go a long to preventing all these theories and conspiracies. It would help the public regain some trust.

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    What gun shop have you been in that didn’t have security cameras inside and out

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    Quote Originally Posted by js4fn View Post
    What gun shop have you been in that didn’t have security cameras inside and out
    Apparently this one. SIU had security cam footage from a neighbour, as well as dash cam footage from the civilian witness’ vehicle. No mention of any security cam at the address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    Apparently this one. SIU had security cam footage from a neighbour, as well as dash cam footage from the civilian witness’ vehicle. No mention of any security cam at the address.
    If I was up to nefarious activity in my own business I probably would not want to record myself.

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