Ontario Liberals promise handgun ban if elected

[Gilroy]

Oh Gilly old pal…

Yes it’s a poster with a UK origin but I think you’re smart enough to get the idea. Stick up for each other before there is no “each other”.

There are lots of reasons that Americans can’t seem to stop shooting each other, having lots of guns in the hands of the wrong people is a big part of it no doubt.

When a society cannot even protect their OWN CHILDREN from the misuse of guns or easy access to them I hope you would agree they have a real problem.

[Gilroy]

It says suicide rose by 1%

You do realize the number of children in the usa between that age is almost 3 times the size of the Canadian population

Our shooting is up to in Toronto by 47%


As of Feb." 27, shootings were up 47.7% compared to this time last year, the number of people injured is up 70.6%, the number of people fatally shot is up by 33.3% and the total number of people injured and killed by gunfire is up 57.7%.

Thus far there have been 65 shootings compared to 44 at this time last year, 29 people wounded compared to 17 last year, 12 people killed compared to nine last year and a total of 41 people wounded or killed compared to 26 last year."


What should we do ? Kids are shooting each other


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Where is you proof that these are kids shooting each other in Toronto?

Please read the contents of the article

Researchers at the University of Michigan, in Ann Arbor, write that over 4,300 children aged one to 19 years old died of a firearm related injury during the pandemic's first year - a 30 percent jump from the previous year.
2020 was the first year that gun violence overtook vehicle crashes as a leading killer - both due to a surge in firearm deaths and a rapid fall in vehicle related deaths over the past two decades.

[fishfood]

Where is you proof that these are kids shooting each other in Toronto?[/FONT]

https://globalnews.ca/news/8620740/t...ate-institute/

This kid also robbed a pharmacy the day before. 13 years old he might be released on bail faster than Pat King lol.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/13-year-o...rage-1.5749347

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/202...mcdonalds.html


Lots of kids shooting up the streets. Some of my kids friends were at a party last year that got interrupted by gun fire. I talked to one kid who had to jump into the bush and hide from the shooting.






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[Tigboy 304]

When a society cannot even protect their OWN CHILDREN from the misuse of guns or easy access to them I hope you would agree they have a real problem.

Well when we as a country keep importing people to this great nation that are from war torn cesspools that are desensitized to gun violence what do you expect when the all congregate to the big cities. They carry on as they did in there homeland as that is all most know. As far as easy access I'll call bs on that as well too most people of my generation while growing up and generations before had parents and grandparents with shotguns and rifles hanging in proud display on the wall or in closets and back doors to dispatch varmints trying to raid the chicken coop. With all that so-called easy access gun crimes were rarely heard of. I know of no one person that ever took there parents firearms with out asking as that meant a trip to the wood shed. Sadly those times are gone and what we're left with now is the liberal plan to hug a thug and penalize every one else for the thugs poor upbringing and disrespect for the laws of this country. Poor Canada

[mosquito]

Well when we as a country keep importing people to this great nation that are from war torn cesspools that are desensitized to gun violence what do you expect when the all congregate to the big cities. They carry on as they did in there homeland as that is all most know. As far as easy access I'll call bs on that as well too most people of my generation while growing up and generations before had parents and grandparents with shotguns and rifles hanging in proud display on the wall or in closets and back doors to dispatch varmints trying to raid the chicken coop. With all that so-called easy access gun crimes were rarely heard of. I know of no one person that ever took there parents firearms with out asking as that meant a trip to the wood shed. Sadly those times are gone and what we're left with now is the liberal plan to hug a thug and penalize every one else for the thugs poor upbringing and disrespect for the laws of this country. Poor Canada

Well the Liberal's have spent and are willing to spend about a billion to seize the property of the law abiding.... but has only spent a small fraction of the money they promised to spend fighting gangs. They can lie, divide, insult and play the tyrant but not protect and work to solve a problem it seems.
Some good info here. The whole terrorists can contribute and vets ask too much is telling of their morals and empathy.

[fishfood]

Where is you proof that these are kids shooting each other in Toronto?

Please read the contents of the article

Researchers at the University of Michigan, in Ann Arbor, write that over 4,300 children aged one to 19 years old died of a firearm related injury during the pandemic's first year - a 30 percent jump from the previous year.
2020 was the first year that gun violence overtook vehicle crashes as a leading killer - both due to a surge in firearm deaths and a rapid fall in vehicle related deaths over the past two decades.

Lots of reasons to why for the increases. The accidental shootings increased too big time. Maybe kids at home had more access to guns with crappy storage laws. Maybe just keeping a loaded fire arm around when you have kids around isn't the wisest choice just because you can.

Car accident deaths apparently increased too with less cars on the rd go figure.





https://www.aftermath.com/content/ac...hs-statistics/

"UPDATED STATISTICS FOR ACCIDENTAL GUN DEATHS492 people unintentionally die by gun in an average year.Thus far in 2022, there have been unintentional shootings by over 21 children, resulting in 9 deaths and 13 injuries.Accidental gun deaths occur mainly to those under 25 years old. So far in 2022, 209 children (age 0-17) have died by gunshot and an additional 519 were injured. Adolescents are particularly susceptible to accidental shootings due tospecific behavioral characteristicsassociated with adolescence, such as impulsivity, feelings of invincibility, and curiosity about firearms.In 2021 there were at least 377 unintentional shootings by children. This resulted in 154 deaths and 242 injuries in the United States.In 2021, unintentional shooting deaths accounted for over 4% (2,007) of total gun related deaths (44,912) in the United States.Shelter in place orders during the coronavirus pandemic have led tomajor spikesin accidental shootings at home by children. Unintentional shooting deaths by children increased by nearly one-third comparing incidents in March to December of 2020 to the same months of 2019.During the Covid-19 pandemic, there were 3,906 additional firearm deaths and 9,278 additional firearm injuries in 2020 compared to 2019."

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[delmer]

As far as easy access I'll call bs on that as well too most people of my generation while growing up and generations before had parents and grandparents with shotguns and rifles hanging in proud display on the wall or in closets and back doors to dispatch varmints trying to raid the chicken coop. With all that so-called easy access gun crimes were rarely heard of. I know of no one person that ever took there parents firearms with out asking as that meant a trip to the wood shed.

That's really the question that needs answering, isn't it? Every kid I grew up with in our rural environment was exposed to guns at an early age. There were no laws dictating safe storage. Yet we just left them alone, unless given parental approval. Somewhere along the way, future generations took a wrong turn.

[Gilroy]

Well when we as a country keep importing people to this great nation that are from war torn cesspools that are desensitized to gun violence what do you expect when the all congregate to the big cities. They carry on as they did in there homeland as that is all most know. As far as easy access I'll call bs on that as well too most people of my generation while growing up and generations before had parents and grandparents with shotguns and rifles hanging in proud display on the wall or in closets and back doors to dispatch varmints trying to raid the chicken coop. With all that so-called easy access gun crimes were rarely heard of. I know of no one person that ever took there parents firearms with out asking as that meant a trip to the wood shed. Sadly those times are gone and what we're left with now is the liberal plan to hug a thug and penalize every one else for the thugs poor upbringing and disrespect for the laws of this country. Poor Canada

The gun laws in Canada work pretty well for most law abiding citizens but you seem to want to ignore what free access does in the USA and
want to skip over this inconvenience. We very seldom have children getting shot at home accidently or otherwise.

War torn cesspools as you put it does necessarily produce criminal behaviour, I am sure our newly arriving Ukrainian refugees will be in big cities and I do not expect any problems with gun misuse.

The assertion that "they carry on as they did in their homeland " is wrong and and is not born out in reality.

I hope we are by the stage when "parents taking their kids back to the wood shed is over".

[Tigboy 304]

The gun laws in Canada work pretty well for most law abiding citizens but you seem to want to ignore what free access does in the USA and
want to skip over this inconvenience. We very seldom have children getting shot at home accidently or otherwise.

War torn cesspools as you put it does necessarily produce criminal behaviour, I am sure our newly arriving Ukrainian refugees will be in big cities and I do not expect any problems with gun misuse.

The assertion that "they carry on as they did in their homeland " is wrong and and is not born out in reality.

I hope we are by the stage when "parents taking their kids back to the wood shed is over".

Well as you said our gun laws work pretty well for most law biding citizens. Well then Instead of punishing law abiding citizens by creating more useless laws and confiscating legally acquired firearms, why not go after the one's breaking the laws. Oh I'm bad I forgot that's not the liebral way that would require hard work and it's far easier to appear to be doing something by going after law abiding firearms owners. Oh and by the way we aren't the USA which I wish we were in a few cases but with the laws in place up here there isn't nor should be free access so that is a non issue. The Ukraine well we will see were that goes it was only a few years ago the Ukraine was considered as corrupt as the Russians we will see were it all ends when the dust settles as the are always to sides to a story and we only seem to get one side of the argument. To your last statement, if more of these punks that are running the streets committing these heinous crimes were taken to the wood shed for a trimming they would have been better off for it. I'm sure they were the ones to be placed in the time out chair to be coddled only to get out to do it again as we can all see. Cheers.

[Bluebulldog]

War torn cesspools as you put it does necessarily produce criminal behaviour, I am sure our newly arriving Ukrainian refugees will be in big cities and I do not expect any problems with gun misuse.

The assertion that "they carry on as they did in their homeland " is wrong and and is not born out in reality.
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Not quite.

Look at the crime stats around the Jamestown, and Kingsway Gardens neighborhoods in NW Toronto.

Introduction of a lot of people from the horn of Africa, and yes, violent crime and other offences rose dramatically.

Yes, the Ukrainians aren't really a problem.....I'm pretty sure that wasn't the area he was referring to.