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November 23rd, 2022, 12:56 PM
#21
First they came for the opposition..........whoops I stop here.
Last time someone tried to use this set of sentences ,on this very Forum(to reflect onto gun control)was beaten up pretty badly by some of the members. The ones, which ones used every opportunity to twist and turn the guys words(writings).
So-to stay on the topic
First they came for "scary guns"(assault guns)-i did nothing,since i owned none
Then they came for handguns-i did nothing,since i owned none
Then they came for "some"semis--i did nothing,since i owned none
The list will go as
Then they came for -all the semis
Then they came for all the lever and bolt actions
Then they came for "sniper rifles"(scoped bolt action rifles)
They they came for...........................................noth ing will be left in 20 years.
Maybe-just maybe,single shots,muzzleloaders,and break and hinge guns.
BUT
That will depend on the amount of distraction needed and/or potential Public votes gained from those steps above.
Last edited by gbk; November 23rd, 2022 at 04:40 PM.
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November 23rd, 2022 12:56 PM
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November 23rd, 2022, 01:01 PM
#22
Let's try and stay on point here.
So from what I can see. Centerfire - Semi Auto, with detachable box type mags that can exceed 5 rounds.
Most shotguns don't qualify, except for some of the Derya etc.
Most hunting rifles don't qualify ( Remington 740, Browning BAR). In fact most of the centerfire rifles that fall under the new amendment were already specified in the original OIC. Possibly changing the language so industry can't pivot and produce "new" models with different names?
A stock SKS likely wouldn't qualify, as stock, production rifles do not have a detachable mag.
Rimfire isn't included.
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
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November 23rd, 2022, 01:12 PM
#23
Just a stupid question, but instead of banning certain guns why don't they re-define the guns that are in each of the three current brackets (Prohib, restricted, non-restricted). They use this method with some tax rules as it is easier to change the inclusions/exclusions than to change a governing rule. At least that way we would be left with a certain class of guns available, seems we are heading to 100% elimination of modern hunting tools.
Also, how did these changes become ratified? As I understand, they did not pass through parliament?
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November 23rd, 2022, 01:17 PM
#24
740s and 742s can both take 8 round magazines
They say the only good wolf is a dead wolf, If that’s the case than I’ve reformed many a wolf.
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November 23rd, 2022, 01:24 PM
#25

Originally Posted by
hunter06
740s and 742s can both take 8 round magazines
Not to digress too much on this one. But if the stock rifle as made. has a detachable box for 4 rounds. AND anything exceeding 5 rounds can't be imported in already.....am I missing something?
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
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November 23rd, 2022, 01:47 PM
#26
I could be wrong, I took it as any Semi Auto, that could take a magazine over 5 rounds. Hope I’m wrong.
They say the only good wolf is a dead wolf, If that’s the case than I’ve reformed many a wolf.
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November 23rd, 2022, 02:58 PM
#27
The expansion of the list of banned guns will massively increase the compensation cost to government. It will be billions. Non-gun owners might not care about guns but they will care very much that government is pissing away billions of dollars buying guns from law-abiding citizens instead of putting it to health care.
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November 23rd, 2022, 04:00 PM
#28

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
The expansion of the list of banned guns will massively increase the compensation cost to government. It will be billions. Non-gun owners might not care about guns but they will care very much that government is pissing away billions of dollars buying guns from law-abiding citizens instead of putting it to health care.
Hey well said
Even know other places need the cash the cash aint the issues more of a policy thing.
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November 23rd, 2022, 04:51 PM
#29

Originally Posted by
Bluebulldog
Not to digress too much on this one. But if the stock rifle as made. has a detachable box for 4 rounds. AND anything exceeding 5 rounds can't be imported in already.....am I missing something?
Re Remington 740-742(and others)here is the excerpt from the very proposal/posted by OOD Forum a short while ago:
A federal amendment to Bill C-21 proposes to ban any semi-auto shotgun or centrefire rifle “designed to accept a detachable cartridge magazine with a capacity greater than five cartridges of the type for which the firearm was originally designed.”
Therefore-ANY gun (they can claim)which by design can accept larger detachable magazines then 5 rounds ( which by the way is a redundant repeat of the already existing ban on NO MORE then 5 round magazines for semi auto rifles) will be banned.
The redundancy in the new proposal and the "elastic"wording leads to no other belief.
Last edited by gbk; November 23rd, 2022 at 04:58 PM.
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November 23rd, 2022, 06:36 PM
#30

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
The expansion of the list of banned guns will massively increase the compensation cost to government. It will be billions. Non-gun owners might not care about guns but they will care very much that government is pissing away billions of dollars buying guns from law-abiding citizens instead of putting it to health care.
The amendment is silent with respect to compensation. I suspect that will cause some concern.
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