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December 18th, 2022, 07:43 PM
#81
For anyone interested, CTV W5 just had a show on invasive species. Wild hogs are part of it. Like everything else the Gov't has more or less turned a blind eye to it and studies are being funded by the US Gov't as they are worried about the hogs moving from Canada (Sask) into the northern states. The study being done in Sask, already figures the point of no return has already been passed. Why the MNRF here is being so stubborn to not allow hunting and eradication of them.
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December 18th, 2022 07:43 PM
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December 19th, 2022, 09:12 AM
#82

Originally Posted by
Fisherman
For anyone interested, CTV W5 just had a show on invasive species. Wild hogs are part of it. Like everything else the Gov't has more or less turned a blind eye to it and studies are being funded by the US Gov't as they are worried about the hogs moving from Canada (Sask) into the northern states. The study being done in Sask, already figures the point of no return has already been passed. Why the MNRF here is being so stubborn to not allow hunting and eradication of them.
If we kick the lid off the garbage can of "animal rights" groups,I bet we find their dirty slimy little fingers in the political pie that drives the "junk science" that governments are oh so eager to cite when making these ridiculous decisions.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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December 19th, 2022, 03:35 PM
#83
The topic of wild pigs came up during the controlled hunt. Does not sound like many land owners in my area are going to wait for the pig patrol to show up to to take care of any new invasive hogs. I imagine it will be the same for most landowners.
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December 19th, 2022, 06:26 PM
#84

Originally Posted by
GuyJR
The topic of wild pigs came up during the controlled hunt. Does not sound like many land owners in my area are going to wait for the pig patrol to show up to to take care of any new invasive hogs. I imagine it will be the same for most landowners.
There we go- hunters will not be able to hunt hogs due of the fear of them dispersing after them being hunted .
So we are told.
It seems hogs will discriminate against hunters then, and disperse when a hunter shoots them........yet they will stay put in place after bunch of them are shot up by owners of properties(which is likely to happen anyway-far and wide).
Nice.
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December 19th, 2022, 07:00 PM
#85
Surprised this topic is still giving some grief. I believe the intent of the law is to prevent the introduction of hogs by those who would want to hunt them, hence the no hunting of them.
No where I can find is there a prohibition of killing hogs in the protection of property.
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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December 19th, 2022, 09:23 PM
#86

Originally Posted by
finsfurfeathers
Surprised this topic is still giving some grief. I believe the intent of the law is to prevent the introduction of hogs by those who would want to hunt them, hence the no hunting of them.
No where I can find is there a prohibition of killing hogs in the protection of property.
Right! Only landowners and/or their bona fide agents are allowed to shoot wild hogs to protect private property. I'm only familiar with western New York state where the no hunting of wild hogs/boar is only allowed in that fashion. So far,after 4 years,that philosophy has been a bust. The wild hog population has increased dramatically.
Last edited by trimmer21; December 19th, 2022 at 09:26 PM.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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December 19th, 2022, 10:05 PM
#87
The junk science part Trimmer is referring to can be found on page 10 of the Ontario Strategy to Address the Threat of Invasive Wild Pigs.
Quote:
Action 1.6: Prohibit hunting of wild pigs in Ontario.
There is a common misconception that hunting could be an effective approach for
eradicating wild pig populations; however, research and management experiences from
other jurisdictions indicates that hunting actually accelerates their spread. Wild pigs that
are exposed to hunting pressure flee into new areas and learn to avoid humans. In some
jurisdictions where hunting seasons were introduced as an approach to manage wild
pigs, the intentional release of wild pigs into new areas to create additional recreational
hunting opportunities significantly accelerated population expansion. Other jurisdictions
(e.g., New York) have reduced or eliminated the spread of wild pigs by, in part, banning
wild pig hunting. In alignment with best information and Ontario’s proactive approach to
address the threat of wild pigs, NDMNRF has passed a regulatory amendment to
prohibit hunting wild pigs under the Invasive Species Act, 2015. Landowners or agents
acting on their behalf are able to protect their property from wildlife damage, including
for the purpose of biosecurity.
Source:
https://files.ontario.ca/ndmnrf-wild...2021-10-19.pdf
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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December 19th, 2022, 10:07 PM
#88

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Right! Only landowners and/or their bona fide agents are allowed to shoot wild hogs to protect private property. I'm only familiar with western New York state where the no hunting of wild hogs/boar is only allowed in that fashion. So far,after 4 years,that philosophy has been a bust. The wild hog population has increased dramatically.
funny...my venison tastes like a 10 point pork..
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December 19th, 2022, 11:32 PM
#89

Originally Posted by
Species8472
The junk science part Trimmer is referring to can be found on page 10 of the Ontario Strategy to Address the Threat of Invasive Wild Pigs.
Quote:
Action 1.6: Prohibit hunting of wild pigs in Ontario.
There is a common misconception that hunting could be an effective approach for
eradicating wild pig populations; however, research and management experiences from
other jurisdictions indicates that hunting actually accelerates their spread. Wild pigs that
are exposed to hunting pressure flee into new areas and learn to avoid humans. In some
jurisdictions where hunting seasons were introduced as an approach to manage wild
pigs, the intentional release of wild pigs into new areas to create additional recreational
hunting opportunities significantly accelerated population expansion. Other jurisdictions
(e.g., New York) have reduced or eliminated the spread of wild pigs by, in part, banning
wild pig hunting. In alignment with best information and Ontario’s proactive approach to
address the threat of wild pigs, NDMNRF has passed a regulatory amendment to
prohibit hunting wild pigs under the Invasive Species Act, 2015. Landowners or agents
acting on their behalf are able to protect their property from wildlife damage, including
for the purpose of biosecurity.
Source:
https://files.ontario.ca/ndmnrf-wild...2021-10-19.pdf
Every jurisdiction in the southern and mid western US tried it and it failed miserably as witnessed by the population explosions in western NY,Tennessee,the Carolinas and Pennsylvania,yet,OMNRF cites "other studies" (completely un-named) as a reason to ban shooting them. I'm calling BS to the whole thing until someone can prove that not shooting them reduces the population with rock-solid,unbiased and independently confirmed data.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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December 20th, 2022, 09:18 AM
#90

Originally Posted by
grumpygeezer
funny...my venison tastes like a 10 point pork..
Hahahaha, excellent, wonder when the first picture of a Porkalope is going to be posted.