Hunter reporting penalties increase

[Gilroy]

One thing kind of cool as an incentive is the chance to win an ATV just for doing the survey.

That seems to not have worked for the 14,888 hunters who decided NOT TO REPORT FOR DEER IN THE 2023 MANDATORY QUESTIONNERE ?

[finsfurfeathers]

That seems to not have worked for the 14,888 hunters who decided NOT TO REPORT FOR DEER IN THE 2023 MANDATORY QUESTIONNERE ?

and hence the stick

[finsfurfeathers]

"Why wait a few weeks later? What stops you from filing that evening or next day while fresh in your recollection? In any case while you still have meat in your possession that tag needs to be readily available anyways.

So with a whole lot more benefits and really don't see any negatives or hardship to comply other than sheer stubbornness I'm OK with the requirement and happy to comply to do my part. Kind of like voting if you don't participate can't really complain after the fact."


Just adds to my objections, why should I have to run around for them and jump when demanded. I make my return when I get the reminder and not before.

The tag is not with me, its left with the butcher as he needs it while processing, once its processed its junk, so I don't have it.

Why are they now asking questions about the day and time harvested, this has nothing to do with managing the resource and more to do with preventing poaching, but they are not being honest with their questions. IMHO

Are you in favour of protecting poachers? I see it as value added killing 2 birds with one stone. I'd hope it would be in every ones benefit to curtail poaching

[Gilroy]

and hence the stick

The mixed signals to date are not helping and as of last year 2023 we have 8% still not interested in reporting.


https://www.ofah.org/insider/2021/01...-licence-2021/

https://www.ontario.ca/files/2024-04...n-2024_fix.pdf

[finsfurfeathers]

The mixed signals to date are not helping and as of last year 2023 we have 8% still not interested in reporting.


https://www.ofah.org/insider/2021/01...-licence-2021/

https://www.ontario.ca/files/2024-04...n-2024_fix.pdf

Its good to see the numbers going up as people understand or just see the advantage of reporting as for the rest at least there will be 8% less hunters out there so should make for more room for the ones who play by the rules.

[Gilroy]

Are you in favour of protecting poachers? I see it as value added killing 2 birds with one stone. I'd hope it would be in every ones benefit to curtail poaching

Well I see it a very different way.

They dream up this paper tag system and now find that they have opened up a pardoras box , with folks (poachers) using copied tags.

Now realizing they have a problem are back dooring and sneaking in investigative questions in what used to be a simple return for a deer hunter. Not good, not upfront or transparent.

So no I am not if favor of protecting poachers and can see you are posing a rhetorical question, but I hope you are not suggesting that some 14,888 hunters who purchased a license should now be considered potential poachers just because they did not submit a return.

[Gilroy]

Its good to see the numbers going up as people understand or just see the advantage of reporting as for the rest at least there will be 8% less hunters out there so should make for more room for the ones who play by the rules.

Well I guess I will keep my powder dry and see if the Almighty Government will decide they are willing to forgo the license fees coming in from these hunters who are being bad boys OR take another pragmatic approach.

[finsfurfeathers]

They dream up this paper tag system and now find that they have opened up a pardoras box , with folks (poachers) using copied tags.
Now realizing they have a problem are back dooring and sneaking in investigative questions in what used to be a simple return for a deer hunter.

Yup these are the poachers I was referring too and if the reporting system identifies them all that much better. Another problem solved by the system

I hope you are not suggesting that some 14,888 hunters who purchased a license should now be considered potential poachers just because they did not submit a return.

No they are just guilty of not filing and be subject to the penalties set forth by that transgression. Though if i was a CO those names would be at the top of my list to find out why they didn't file.

Well I guess I will keep my powder dry and see if the Almighty Government will decide they are willing to forgo the license fees coming in from these hunters who are being bad boys OR take another pragmatic approach.

Kind of cutting your nose off to spite your face eh? I'm sure your fellow hunter's are in full support of your actions while sitting in their stands.
Will be interesting too see if you will keep to your statement in time to come.

[rick_iles]

Yup these are the poachers I was referring too and if the reporting system identifies them all that much better. Another problem solved by the system


No they are just guilty of not filing and be subject to the penalties set forth by that transgression. Though if i was a CO those names would be at the top of my list to find out why they didn't file.



Kind of cutting your nose off to spite your face eh? I'm sure your fellow hunter's are in full support of your actions while sitting in their stands.
Will be interesting too see if you will keep to your statement in time to come.

Seems there’s a lot of consternation over the nonissue of taking five minutes and doing the mandatory report. Not one of my hunting group have said anything negative about the regulation. But I guess if a hunter is too old to be able to remember when he/she/him/her shot the animal, it could be problematic !!

[Gilroy]

Seems there’s a lot of consternation over the nonissue of taking five minutes and doing the mandatory report. Not one of my hunting group have said anything negative about the regulation. But I guess if a hunter is too old to be able to remember when he/she/him/her shot the animal, it could be problematic !!

There were "several new questions" I guess I would call it investigative creep. I am sure a few hunters answers might not jive with a tag validated a CO might come across, but it could be a completely

innocent mistake. How exactly does the time and date you dropped a deer have any connection to a mandatory harvest questioner .

If this continues in a few years we will have to report on a whole bunch of questions.

If fully 8% of hunters 14,888 are not happy after 3 or 4 years of continual pushing the issue, maybe the MINISTRY and pen pushers should sort their chit out.

That way the OFAH will not have to intervene on behalf of hunters who just want some common sense injected into the system.

Near everybody I talk to laugh about the simple question HOW MANY DEER DID YOU SEE, so many different answers available to this.

How many I saw with my own eyes . How many did I see on my trail cameras . How many can I say I saw in person or on a camera that I can individually identify. The last one might be the best.