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June 27th, 2012, 04:01 PM
#41

Originally Posted by
BigBadBen16
Compound bows and compound crossbows are two different beasts. TPM hit that one right on the nail.
How so ?? I have both here and the limb and cable assy look EXACTLY like each other, the x-bow is just a little more ruggedized..as TPM pointed out, because they are designed for more force. Doesn't mean they are more prone to failure, in fact probably means they are less so than a compound bow set up.

Originally Posted by
BigBadBen16
The point was that in the event of a bowstring failure -
Love that old chestnut; I haven't never had the need to change a string in the field in over tens years...can't see using that as a criteria for making a decision on a future purchase. It's probably not even an issue for 95% of Excalibur owners who have never had to change their string in the field.
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June 27th, 2012 04:01 PM
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June 27th, 2012, 07:48 PM
#42

Originally Posted by
Goose smasher
Made in Canada doesn't matter anyway,who cares?? Stuff made in China is well known for reliability and quality construction.
Goose smasher
I hope that comment was made tongue in cheek.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." Ernest Benn
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June 27th, 2012, 09:00 PM
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June 27th, 2012, 09:05 PM
#44
Have him try-out an Ibex. Much shorter stock than the larger poundage Excal bow's. I had the same issues with the longer stocks & the Ibex was the solution......
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June 28th, 2012, 04:51 AM
#45

Originally Posted by
delmer
I hope that comment was made tongue in cheek.

It most certainly was. Made in Canada matters to all of us even if some of us don't think so.
Goose smasher
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June 28th, 2012, 06:38 AM
#46

Originally Posted by
MikePal
How so ?? I have both here and the limb and cable assy look EXACTLY like each other, the x-bow is just a little more ruggedized..as TPM pointed out, because they are designed for more force. Doesn't mean they are more prone to failure, in fact probably means they are less so than a compound bow set up.
Love that old chestnut; I haven't never had the need to change a string in the field in over tens years...can't see using that as a criteria for making a decision on a future purchase. It's probably not even an issue for 95% of Excalibur owners who have never had to change their string in the field.
Mike, it's only my opinion since I'm not an engineer but I think the crossbow manufacturers are really pushing the designs of some of the new crossbows to the limit, more so than the vertical compounds. I also don't think they are always doing enough testing on some of these higher performance bows before they hit the market. Most crossbows are designed for hunting which means they're probably going to see pretty limited shooting and used in that context they will likely give a hunter a lifetime of good service. The problems I've seen over the years are a result of high volume shooting.
As for the string change thing, you're probably right, it's not an issue for 95% of the owners but for those of us in the other 5% it is a considoration. I have had string failure on the target course and had to change strings on the fly. There is also the issue of re-serving. I only get about 250-300 shots out of a serving which means I have to re-serve several times a year. The fact that I can pop my string off in a matter of seconds without a press makes this a lot easier.
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June 28th, 2012, 12:00 PM
#47
Please all remember that they are CANADIAN MADE. Now that even hunting licences come out of the U.S., you may as well support a Cdn. company!
Plus, they stand behind their product no matter what. (and did I mention they are Cdn. made!!!)
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June 28th, 2012, 03:44 PM
#48

Originally Posted by
Buckhorn Baywatch
Please all remember that they are CANADIAN MADE. Now that even hunting licences come out of the U.S., you may as well support a Cdn. company!
Plus, they stand behind their product no matter what. (and did I mention they are Cdn. made!!!)
Bingo!!
Goose smasher
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June 28th, 2012, 07:49 PM
#49
Interesting discussion.
However, some of us are happy with our "oldies"
I'm still shooting a 125 Lb. PSE compound that I bought used 20 years ago.
With my old Weaver Quick-Point red dot sight (pre-battery days) I can still get 2" groups out to 35 yards.
Why look for anything new?
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June 29th, 2012, 03:48 PM
#50

Originally Posted by
MikePal
In fact it seems that the only x-bow guys who brag about the great customer service are guys with Excalibur's....it's like owning a Toyota..you have to ask who the service managers is, while the Ford/Dodge guys have him on speed dial.

I think a lot of people have experienced Excalibur customer service because the simplicity of the design and the style itself makes it easy to swap out parts without the need to buy a new bow. The bows made twenty years ago can be upgraded for speed by simply buying new limbs (carved tip replaced with mag tips). As well, many change stocks (for different colours or camo patterns), deck rails (changes the power stroke which alters draw weight and speed), risers (from cast to machined to forward angled), for whatever reason. A call to the company will quickly answer any questions you may have about the interchangeability of various components, and their cost and availability. It is very easy to "pimp" your bow.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." Ernest Benn