Excalibur Vs TenPoint

[TPM]

Mike, that's a great study of the technical specs of each bow but unless I was planning on only shooting a couple of shots in a controlled lab environment I don't think I'd base any decisions solely on those results. Give the bows to some pro-staffers and use and abuse them in the real world for a year then report back. Put each one through some real hunting and target shooting situations and shoot them a minimum of 1000 shots each. After that add reliability, portability, servicability and ergonomics to the review criteria and you'll get a more realistic assessment of each bow. I'm not saying all the results would change but dry technical specs don't paint a complete picture. Ya gotta get out and use them and use them a lot to find the real strong and weak points of each bow.
BTW, putting one of Ten Point's top bows against Excal's bottom of the line eco bow is not exactly a fair comparison. I'd hardly call it "unbiased".

[MikePal]

First off the 'Stealth' is one of Ten Points mid range crossbow, check out the listings at Bass Pro.

http://www.basspro.com/Archery-Cross...11cuv#Category

I agree what your talking about is customer satisfaction, If you owned one before are you going to buy one again. Both Ten Point and Excalibur have sales around $7.5 million a year...so someone is happy with them.

But then there is blind 'Brand Loyalty'; Like the Dodge guy, he will always be a Dodge guy. Even though the Toyota is a better quality, more reliable, all round better performer...some guys will only own a Dodge. No performance charts or spec testing or quantitative reviews will ever change his mind. It's just what testosterone does.

[Goose smasher]

10 lbs,10 ounces!!!! Ten point wins hands down!! Wow,what a heavy weight! For the record I have never said any of the crossbows mentioned were bad only that I personally prefer the Excalibur over the compound style crossbows. Mid range vs. economy level isn't a fair comparison. You also forgot to mention that Toyota trucks are far more money then any of the others available,about $15000 last time I checked.Maybe you think if you spend more money it must be better? You must be a salesman's dream come true!

I've got this one that has been used basically unchanged for over twenty years for $1000 or I have this "new" one that won't be around by next year because the company changes everything every year for $2000. Clearly the $2000 model is better. Maybe if Excalibur sold a model for $3000 it would then be the best?

Goose smasher

[MikePal]

When I posted the link, I was responding to OnGuards request for some quantitative measurements for comparison. I think they did a good job in what they looked at and how they were tested.

Maybe I missed it, but in all the comparisons, where there any quantitative measurements. Speed, Noise Level, Accuracy, Effeciency, etc...?

I can only guess that when they chose to use the Axiom, they had read the description of it from the Excalibur website..they advertise it's comparable to their most expensive options.

This superbly crafted crossbow is capable of producing arrow speeds in excess of 305 feet per second and, like all Excalibur Crossbows, its accuracy is amazing and its reliability is bulletproof.

Quality of manufacture, reliability, and accuracy of this economical kit is comparable with our most expensive options.

http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/cat...m_crossbow_kit

Of course you get get a better bow the more you pay for GS.....Duh..just look at the crossbows in the Excalibur line...they have econo model for $550 and a top end Eclipse for $1K...will both kill deer..Of course they will !!!

[Exo200]

I found a big stick, I'll give this dead horse a few whacks. Nothing shoot's as good as as a crisbow cheetah.

[bellerivercrossbowhunter]

Thanks everyone for the responses and I shared the information with him. I actually headed down south this week for Vacation and he and my brother made the drive from out east and we met up and did some shopping, we checked out alot of bows, and he was still torn between 10 point and excalibur, in the end he went with the Excalibur, the tenpoint was of course narrower, but he likes simplicity and the extra strings and cams didn't really appeal to him, as well the 10 points (to me anyways and he agreed) don't feel as "balanced" as excalibur, the excals just feel like the weight is distributed more evenly and the 10 points felt very front end heavy, assuming this is the extra metal plating and the cams.

He found an excal that fit him perfectly no problem reaching down and drawing it back. Another selling feature for him is where he lives the excal dealer, who also has a range etc is just down the street from him and he's been dealing wth him and always had excellent service (never had to get service on his bow other then re-stringing) but he's built a relationship with the shop owner and should he ever have issues there's someone there.

Again thanks for all the info it was a great read.

His Dad bought the Excal. Smart choice my friend!!!

[TPM]

10 lbs,10 ounces!!!! Ten point wins hands down!! Wow,what a heavy weight!

Yup. I'm not knocking Ten Point, they make excellent crossbows, but this is a typical example of "lab test" verses "real world" test. Not an issue if you're doing a few shots at a test range but try carrying something that heavy through swamp and heavy bush on the way to your treestand (some of mine are up to a 45 minute walk from where we park) or on a 3D course in the middle of July in 30 degree heat and that quickly becomes a liabiltity. I'll be 49 in a couple of weeks and as I get older crossbow weight becomes a huge factor. Again, not knocking Ten Point or their quality but I don't see how they can make a 10lb., 10oz. bow "Top Pick". I would think that would be a big strike against it.

[Doug]

OK guys this has been not a bad thread; but if you are going to do comparisions do apples to apples, oranges to oranges.

Compare the Excal (all recurve) to Ten Point's recurve, leave the training wheels off the bows.

Bought my GT-Flex while the dollar was high and the bow on sale! I only made my purchase after shooting both at the range the store operates... like the GT best!

I shoot the Ten Point Gt-Flex, never had a problem, buddy shoots an Excal, also never had a problem. We both use them for hunting only, sight them during an afternoon in the fall, then they are only shot to kill, so maybe 10-15 times per year, on a bad year.

[TPM]

OK guys this has been not a bad thread; but if you are going to do comparisions do apples to apples, oranges to oranges.

Compare the Excal (all recurve) to Ten Point's recurve, leave the training wheels off the bows.

Bought my GT-Flex while the dollar was high and the bow on sale! I only made my purchase after shooting both at the range the store operates... like the GT best!

I shoot the Ten Point Gt-Flex, never had a problem, buddy shoots an Excal, also never had a problem. We both use them for hunting only, sight them during an afternoon in the fall, then they are only shot to kill, so maybe 10-15 times per year, on a bad year.

Excellent points Doug. My mind is long made up regarding re-curve/compound sytems. With more and more re-curve designs hitting the market I'd love to see some comparisons between the different models and manufacturers.

[Dereck]

I shot excals for the last few years and have switched to the wicked ridge series (by Tenpoint) the invader 185lb and prefer this bow over all others I have owned.
It has the built in cocking aid and a 12 inch power stroke, get him to try one at a dealer it should be easier to reach for him

didn't see till after he bought the excal