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August 18th, 2013, 11:14 AM
#101
Where are you guys that are getting charged so much? My course was once a week and only cost $180 including books last winter. My buddy did a weekend one for $250 including books
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August 18th, 2013 11:14 AM
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August 18th, 2013, 09:52 PM
#102
If the instructor insnt making minimum 30 points they should bird watching or go fishing. It's buisness and its ok to make money. The net profit relates to # of seats sold. They may have to run a course with only 6 seats. Next one may have 15. It's hunting not charity.
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August 19th, 2013, 12:02 AM
#103

Originally Posted by
genec
The course costs depend to a certain extent on where the instructor teaches from e.g., what does it cost to rent a facility to use for a course. (We charge $240 for both H Ed & PAL). Rents in urban areas probably are higher than more rural areas.
Then, you have to understand that an instructor receives NOTHING for free to teach these courses:
- We have to buy the books & exams
- we have to pay 3 liability insurance fees to teach the 3 courses each year
- We have to buy all the equipment we use to teach with (e.g., laptop computer & projector. We had to replace our old projector a year ago - cheapest I could find was over $350)
- All the guns we use in these courses we have to provide, and they have to be disabled before we can use them. And with the beating that the guns take in these courses, we have to replace them on a regular basis. Have you checked out gun prices lately? The last 2 I had to buy cost me $625 used. We need to replace some others soon!
- We are continually replacing dummy ammunition as it gets beaten up with the constant cycling through the actions by students. Even by making our own, we still need to buy bullets & brass, drill 3 holes in each shell, and paint bullets & primer holes blue.
Then somewhere in there we need to pay for our expenses also - food, gas, etc. By the end of each course I've put 450 Km on my vehicle.
You're lucky the course fees aren't any higher than they are!
Excellent points!!Those who give of their time coaching will certainly understand, and relate to Hunter Ed instructors! My question to some who have posted towards lowering costs....Would you like to purchase $5000 for equipment, plus liability insurance, plus rental fee's, plus gas, hotel, food, wear & tear on your own personal vehicle, time away from your family etc.... and do all this for free or minimal pay? I urge you to step up to the plate and teach it! I teach the course because I absolutely love it! I am thrilled when I have shaken the hand of those who passed the course, and welcomed them into this great "club" we are all a part of.
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August 19th, 2013, 08:54 AM
#104
Wildfowl... Otption to choose on- line course or instructor like other provinces.... CHOICES!... Then test hands on to pass your licences... Works other places... Why not here in ontario...
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August 19th, 2013, 08:57 AM
#105

Originally Posted by
JoePa
If you want to hunt a kid has to take a hunter's safety course - they are often given by hunting and fishing clubs - the price is $0 - they are given for free -

This would bring more newbies!!!
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August 21st, 2013, 11:21 PM
#106

Originally Posted by
grizzlygreig
Wildfowl... Otption to choose on- line course or instructor like other provinces.... CHOICES!... Then test hands on to pass your licences... Works other places... Why not here in ontario...
Your point is valid, however I am not yet sold on the online portion of it. I believe that too much can be "lost" while doing an online course. I still believe that questions, stories and examples, play a vital role in anchoring the important parts of the course in the minds of the students.
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August 29th, 2013, 03:31 PM
#107
well did some calling around.. I can get it done in another state even though I am a resident of Ontario and then come back and challenge the exam. so how is it I can go out of province or state do a online course and pass and then come back to Ontario and challenge the exam for 40 bucks... the Ontario card center was kinda taken back that it was done online in other provinces and most states do as well.. she was also shocked to see that it could be done cheaper a lot .. anyway anyone who is traveling to usa and wants to do it online and go and do practical test and then come back to Ontario and challenge the exam you can save yourself a few buck... best part is you can do it at your own pace online... and then set up the test ...
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August 29th, 2013, 07:56 PM
#108
That's assuming one comes back and passes the test that they challenge!!
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August 30th, 2013, 09:20 AM
#109
Alberta is one, hunting course is 75, gun course is 105 plus 80 for the PAL. We can do them on line, at least the hunter ED, daughter is doing hers as we speak.
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August 30th, 2013, 02:46 PM
#110
I can tell you this. I had to do the exams for many years and those who were able to challenge the exam through age, lost proof/obsolete licences, etc. most failed the practical.