Minimum Caliber for deer

[oaknut]

How many deer do you want to kill out of each herd that comes by? Isn't three enough?

Well said good sir!!
If we all had to start out with single shots maybe the spray and prayer's would have learned how to shoot.

[hunter391]

Well said good sir!!
If we all had to start out with single shots maybe the spray and prayer's would have learned how to shoot.

Ha your so right, everyone should just take all those four round clips and through them in the garbage!

[HuntCamp'r]

Ha your so right, everyone should just take all those four round clips and through them in the garbage!

It's just a security blanket anyway... How many people have actually emptied 5 rounds on a big game animal ??? Few, I expect.

[Bluebulldog]

With all due respect to our Hunters Safety Educators. I acknowledge that they do a great job, and have a very tough time of it with respect to making sure that everyone gets the course, and indeed passes the exam, knowing most of the points.

I have noticed some very wrong interpretations of the regs being instilled in new hunters however.

I had a friend who took the course last Feb. I then spoke with him about doing some grouse hunting in some of the areas I've hunted since I was a kid. we got into an argument, since he had been told by the instructor that hunting from a road was prohibited....of course not true. The hunting from an unmaintained road, is of course allowed, and includes forest access roads, logging roads etc. But I had to show it to him in the regs before he'd believe me.

Hunters Ed teachers have a lot of info to pass on. And in a lot of cases, rather than actually get sidetracked from their course curriculum by discussion of reg interpretation, they simply give a firm answer.

[brent]

It's just a security blanket anyway... How many people have actually emptied 5 rounds on a big game animal ??? Few, I expect.

I would bet lots do every year. There are tons of irresponsible, crappy, "hunters" out there.

[brent]

also it states a 275 for rifle making 270 (277) not for use in most areas

Wrong.....

[Bluebulldog]

Be carful of what we wish for slug guns could be banned during shot gun season,as a slug gun has lands and groves making it technically a rifle also it states a 275 for rifle making 270 (277) not for use in most areas

Maximum caliber of .275. Which makes .270 just fine.

It passes a slug down a rifled barrel yes. But the cartridge is still a shotshell, not capable of making the same pressures, and velocities as a centerfire rifle cartridge, which is why they specifically still allow shotgun in those areas. Hardly could ever be classed as a rifle.

[HuntCamp'r]

Maximum caliber of .275. Which makes .270 just fine.

It passes a slug down a rifled barrel yes. But the cartridge is still a shotshell, not capable of making the same pressures, and velocities as a centerfire rifle cartridge, which is why they specifically still allow shotgun in those areas. Hardly could ever be classed as a rifle.

Although I agree in regards to actual properties and capabilities, I don't think it would be too much of a stretch.... I think the term "rifle" is all about the "rifling" and not about the style of the cartridge. When the "Shotgun Only" hunts and Regs came out, It was all about limiting capable distance. It was Buckshot at 50 yards, Then the Slug came along and took it to 100 yards. Now the sabot is here with 200 yards...

[Bluebulldog]

Although I agree in regards to actual properties and capabilities, I don't think it would be too much of a stretch.... I think the term "rifle" is all about the "rifling" and not about the style of the cartridge. When the "Shotgun Only" hunts and Regs came out, It was all about limiting capable distance. It was Buckshot at 50 yards, Then the Slug came along and took it to 100 yards. Now the sabot is here with 200 yards...

Correct. But even a sabot out to 200 yards will not have much energy at a mile, which is the main impetus behind allowing shotgun seasons in more populated areas. The chance for carry over even with a saboted slug is much less than a round out of a typical centerfire rifle. ( except a cartridge like a 45-70 which comes pretty darn close to a 3" 20 guage sabot, at least in the first 500M).

[RTRonthefly]

Wrong.....

x2 .. .Regs state

"A person hunting small game may not carry or use a rifle of greater calibre than a .275-calibre rifle "