can I take my shotgun with me for blubbery picking (bear season not open yet )

[bdog]

Bring your shotgun and don't even worry about meeting up with a CO. How many of them are really left to patrol anyway after all the cuts they've had lol.

There's about 165 CO's in all of Ont.

[400bigbear]

Yes are laws are a cluster ****, I push our firearms law to the limit, when I'm right I know I'm right, and if it comes down to figuring it out in court, so be it, if more would do the same it would help straighten things out pertaining to the law, there are so many cases thrown out because of the misunderstanding of the law on the officers part.
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Your 100 % correct . I know what I'm allowed and not . I don't like a hassle either nor will I get into a throw down with a peace officer while in the field but prefer to embarrass him in court if that what it takes for one to learn . I've made my point with a couple of CO's and OPP before, on guns and did not get obnoxious but explained my point . Told them to lay charge and let me on my way or arrest . All came back after radioing in and sent me on my way . Do it respectfully ALWAYS . Keep your cool . Comments I got back .. " You know your stuff ". . A peace officer hates nothing worse than being embarrassed on the stand and being chastised in the process . They learn a lesson too . Be cool and don't act outraged and full of bluster . Give them some slack and way to back out with dignity as representative of the law . Gun laws and game laws often are how they are interpreted and discretionary . Many peace officers do not know how to proceed especially if they have never come across the situation before . REPEAT .. Give them slack and be respectful .. Go after the jugular in court .


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[sawbill]

Most peace officers have dozens of pieces of legislation they have to enforce. There is absolutely no way they can be thoroughly knowledgeable with more than 2 or 3 of them.

[redd foxx]

can't in Russell, there is a by law.


Originally Posted by 3Wheelerdude
I can carry a shotgun down main street if unloaded, (in my sandals and wife beater.)

I dont see why he cant carry an unloaded shotgun while berry picking.

Can't carry or possess a gun in Russell or is the by-law against discharge of a firearm. They are different issues.

[JoePa]

Most peace officers have dozens of pieces of legislation they have to enforce. There is absolutely no way they can be thoroughly knowledgeable with more than 2 or 3 of them.

Sorry - I don't buy that - a peace officer should know all the laws that pertain to his job - just like everyone else is expected to know their job completely - if they don't know their job they will be making false arrests and on the other hand letting criminals get away with crime - they should go to training sessions that outline the laws that they will be dealing with - we need to expect the best from them - otherwise we won't get it -

[400bigbear]

Most peace officers have dozens of pieces of legislation they have to enforce. There is absolutely no way they can be thoroughly knowledgeable with more than 2 or 3 of them.

EXACTLY Sawbill . Well said .

Legislation and laws will never be perfect as long as we as mere humans make them, and need to have them enforced by mere humans who interpret them . I can't imagine being a CO today with such low numbers and support covering areas during staff holidays etc . and having ABSOLUTE knowledge of those WMU's laws or RESTRICTIONS to enforce . People should think about that when dealing with a peace officer in any area before they start going off on them . Then there are township bylaws and exceptions .


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[B Wilson]

Most peace officers have dozens of pieces of legislation they have to enforce. There is absolutely no way they can be thoroughly knowledgeable with more than 2 or 3 of them.

With that being said, how can the government and it's agents reasonably expect society to know everything they can or can't do?

[Bushmoose]

Should have stayed out of this one Sawbill, the masses are starting to gang up on you?

[400bigbear]

Should have stayed out of this one Sawbill, the masses are starting to gang up on you?

And who are these masses may I be so bold to ask ? Armchair hunters ? Armchair fishers ? Or couch potatoe or , anal outdoor magazine readers that on their best day could not harvest a meal let alone have the endurance to swat flies picking a basket of blue berries ? You do know that blackflies polinate blue berries I hope .

TD

[Bushmoose]

And who are these masses may I be so bold to ask ? Armchair hunters ? Armchair fishers ? Or couch potatoe or , anal outdoor magazine readers that on their best day could not harvest a meal let alone have the endurance to swat flies picking a basket of blue berries ? You do know that blackflies polinate blue berries I hope .

TD

Probably all of the above?