over 65 no more free fishing

[old duckman]

its so nice to see such a united front this is exactly what goverments like to see people blaming each other instead of the people who are paid to manage the resources

You took the words out of my mouth Manson ! The anti,s just love it . Also for those who feel so strongly about license money , I have a suggestion , why not have the tax money on fishing tackle & hunting supplies go into the said resource , now that would be a boost to the fishery & hunting environment don,t you think ?
John

[gubbz]

Right. Manufacturing is leaving this province in droves because the taxes, and hydro rates are the highest in North America, and your solution is to raise the taxes on them?....

Economics 101.

Manufacturing is leaving because our minimum wage workers are being put on a global scale with our so called free trade.
101 back at you.
Old people should pay for the bad economy? I have an elastic band for you if you'd like...

[MikePal]

Anyone who's okay with this needs an elastic band stretched around their head... So they can snap out of it.

I have an elastic band for you if you'd like...

So what's with the elastic bands...tough childhood (jk)

[werner.reiche]

You took the words out of my mouth Manson ! The anti,s just love it . Also for those who feel so strongly about license money , I have a suggestion , why not have the tax money on fishing tackle & hunting supplies go into the said resource , now that would be a boost to the fishery & hunting environment don,t you think ?
John

That would be a good idea. google "Pittman Robertson act". The US is about 75 years ahead of us on this...but then again, fishing and hunting is important to Americans.

[sawbill]

If anyone in government, or here for that matter thinks that introducing a $20 licence from the few seniors (who are actually anglers) is going to bail the MNR out of its fiscal problems they're sadly mistaken. The money generated from such a licence will just about pay for the heat and hydro of their district off ice in Peterborough. Not one nickel will ever end up putting more fish in a creel.

[Thumperrr]

Old people should pay for the economy....I like that....sonny we've been paying for every bad government since Deifenbacker (sp) and been taxed to death while the government gives our tax money away to 3rd world countries like it's candy....hell the banks can turn a quarterly profit of around 1 BILLION $$$$...QUARTERLY sunny.....and I'm still working for the same wage I got 10 YEARS AGO ....SUNNY i GOT AN INNER TUBE FOR YOUR INFLATED HEAD SHOULD YOU NEED IT !

[B Wilson]

If anyone in government, or here for that matter thinks that introducing a $20 licence from the few seniors (who are actually anglers) is going to bail the MNR out of its fiscal problems they're sadly mistaken. The money generated from such a licence will just about pay for the heat and hydro of their district off ice in Peterborough. Not one nickel will ever end up putting more fish in a creel.

Did I read things wrong in the report? I had understood that the proposed fee was to make up for the projected loss in revenue as baby boomers turn 65. I would have assumed that they were using statistics based on the current fishing license holders and their ages.

[sawbill]

Not all money that MNR receives is from licences alone. The bulk of their budget comes from cabinet so every time the ruling government of the day cuts back jobs (staff), that means money from cabinet is gone. I suspect revenue from licencing is a pittance of their entire operating budget for the year.

[MikePal]

I suspect revenue from licencing is a pittance of their entire operating budget for the year.

In regards to the SPA...page 4 of the link I provided earlier says that they get $56 million of the $75 million from licence fees.

see page 4 ( http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...rod_109164.pdf )

Operating expenditures for the Fish and Wildlife Program, including enforcement, amounted to $ 108.5 million in fiscal year 2010/11. Approximately 60% percent of these expenditures ($64.5 million) were supported by recoveries from the Fish and Wildlife SPA. The remaining $44 million in program expenditures were supported by funding from the CRF (Consolidated Revenue Fund).

For almost 2/3 of the operating budget come from the SPA.

[old duckman]

In regards to the SPA...page 4 of the link I provided earlier says that they get $56 million of the $75 million from licence fees.

see page 4 ( http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...rod_109164.pdf )



For almost 2/3 of the operating budget come from the SPA.

Very interesting figures you have posted,I read the report you have posted & I must be missing something there , but hey I am getting on in age, for 2011 it states $55,614. $,2010,38,558 . 2009 $36,781. These are for resident hunting &fishing licenses, ,as I say I am missing something so please help ! Anyhow I really donot want to argue about this it's just after all these years of mismanagement of our money by the government kinda leaves a certain taste in my mouth that is not so nice!
John