A bit of confusion

[Yotehunter]

Hi Everyone,

I'm a new hunter and just have a couple of questions, because I've been told different things by different hunters. On page 29 of the new regulations book it says "With the exception of furbearing mammals, you may not let the flesh of any harvested game wildlife (see Definitions, page 86), that is suitable for food, become spoiled or abandoned. This includes black bear. A hunter who kills a furbearing mammal shall not abandon the pelt or permit the pelt to be spoiled or destroyed."

I only hunt small game mostly just coyotes and groundhogs. So the question is when I kill a coyote I skin the animal, but if I don't that is illegal? For the rest of the body (the meat) I can leave that or use it later as bait for other animals? Finally, with groundhogs I have to use the meat because I've been told that you must and other hunters say you can leave it or you it as bait for coyotes.

Thanks for the clarification.

[rf2]

My understanding of the reg summary is that a groundhog is not listed as either a furbearing mammal or game animal, so you don't have to collect the pelt or the meat.

[trimmer21]

My understanding of the reg summary is that a groundhog is not listed as either a furbearing mammal or game animal, so you don't have to collect the pelt or the meat.

You're absolutely correct. Groundhogs are classed as "varmints" and have been known to carry rabies. Coyotes are also varmints/predators,but,are also classed as "furbearers" when pelts are in "prime" condition from late autumn through late winter. Use of "prime" pelts are required. The key word in the regulations is "usable". Mangy,injured or otherwise damaged pelts aren't generally required to be harvested.

[Yotehunter]

So to be classified as varmint they wouldn't be scheduled under the 97 Act?

[trimmer21]

So to be classified as varmint they wouldn't be scheduled under the 97 Act?

Yes,Coyotes are,only as far as being "furbearers",but,they're still varmints,groundhogs are not classified,at all,other than being "small game" and requiring a license. In this area of Ontario,there's an open season all year for both.

[rick_iles]

I don't believe there is any mention or classification of "varmint " in the FWCA anymore.

[trimmer21]

I don't believe there is any mention or classification of "varmint " in the FWCA anymore.

As a matter of fact,I believe you're right. It was dropped when the old Act was re-written.

[apattenden]

If you want to be sure you can ask a CO

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business...01_130186.html

[Pat32rf]

But then again the good old groundhog does taste a lot like chicken when quartered and done on the BBQ. ....I've even passed it off to neighbourhood teenagers as such.

[Snowwalker]

But then again the good old groundhog does taste a lot like chicken when quartered and done on the BBQ. ....I've even passed it off to neighbourhood teenagers as such.

Funny shaped drum stick. Of course I know people that think chicken comes in little triangle shaped nuggets. Try to give them a drum stick, and they won't eat it.