Safe harvest levels exceeded - NFN

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FN don't get a "free" education. The government gives some money to bands for post secondary education. The band's still have to pay tuition for the students. The universities charge them the same as your kids or mine.

My kids got money to go to school from the government in the form of bursaries. Is that wrong of them to accept it?

My buddies kid got a full ride scholarship to play ball. He makes over 6 figures. Should his kid not take the scholarship?
I don't know if it's bigotry or ignorance on here but it sounds like a bunch of good old boys from the deep south talking about them uppity black folk.

[IceFanADDICT]

There's a whole country below us that have the same get off your butt and help yourself mentality, seems to working great for them.

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There's a whole country below us that have the same get off your butt and help yourself mentality, seems to working great for them.

Yeah, sure
Except FN in the states have the same problems with poverty etc that they do up here

[IceFanADDICT]

Yeah, sure
Except FN have the same problems with poverty etc that they do up here

I was being a bit sarcastic.

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I was being a bit sarcastic.

I apologize. I misunderstood

[grog]

There's a whole country below us that have the same get off your butt and help yourself mentality, seems to working great for them.

Yes, and this has what to do with gill netting a relatively small inland lake until it's ecology is destroyed? Not a damn thing, and btw, this isn't some poor band living in an isolated area with no access to opportunity, does your chart take that into account? Not to mention that not even the people on the reserve are terribly happy with the commercial netting, in part because it benefits a privileged few, while the rest are left with a lake that they have trouble catching fish in for themselves. This simplistic leftist view of the poor native people, is simply ridiculous, and it wont play. You also forgot to mention that the paper you linked is hosted on the center for policy alternatives website, a left wing think tank. Keep looking for excuses where there aren't any.

[Maximus44]

One of my friends in school had diluted native blood. She was doing her second post-secondary course. Fully paid for as well as complete living expenses, because she was "native". She was also gloating that she might do a third post-secondary education, also would be paid for.
They have way more opportunities than any other race in Canada. But it's up to the individual to learn about it and take the initiative.

As far as the netting goes, it's not a necessity for sustenance living. Otherwise, why would they be throwing away all the edible non-walleye fish.

[Gern1980]

Icefanaddict has successfully poisoned this thread with useless diatribe about aboriginal issues. He has no clue about the NFN. An extremely successful and thriving community filled with prosperous, successful, contributing members of this community both on and off the NFN reserve. And valid or not, his aboriginal issues he raises offers no value to the debate of this commercial fishery. His and others continued attempt to bring the discussion back to aboriginal issues and struggles and throw that in the face of others is just as insulting to a NFN member I'm sure. They don't need or want your sympathy. They do quite well. They don't like the nets either. Their community is not immune from challenges or issues with government just like your community in innisfil. Stick to the subject and stop spewing things about a community you have no clue about.

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Ok, if we just keep it at the fishery level, is it commercial fishing that you object to or the method used? Someone mentioned long lining. Is that a viable alternative? Or is it simply that most believe that it should be a sport fishery only.

[IceFanADDICT]

this isn't some poor band living in an isolated area with no access to opportunity, does your chart take that into account?

Yes actually it does on about the second page in.