Safe harvest levels exceeded - NFN

[IceFanADDICT]

The bottom line when it comes to the commercial netting for the sake of this argument is that the lake obviously cannot support it, the netters will not stop without some viable alternative. That was my whole origional point and it turned into left vs right (as it always seems to do on this site).

[Roper]

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[intothedeep]

Yes, and this has what to do with gill netting a relatively small inland lake until it's ecology is destroyed? Not a damn thing, and btw, this isn't some poor band living in an isolated area with no access to opportunity, does your chart take that into account? Not to mention that not even the people on the reserve are terribly happy with the commercial netting, in part because it benefits a privileged few, while the rest are left with a lake that they have trouble catching fish in for themselves. This simplistic leftist view of the poor native people, is simply ridiculous, and it wont play. You also forgot to mention that the paper you linked is hosted on the center for policy alternatives website, a left wing think tank. Keep looking for excuses where there aren't any.

Hmmm, "relatively small inland lake". It's in the top 5 biggest lakes in the province by surface area... I have no interest in getting into these Nip discussions, but that statement was glaring... I think you mean relatively large(close to the biggest) inland lake...

[piker6ca]

Well i,m a FN member if it is that easy to go to school I should go back .
Should be no problem it,s all free and if I work it out right I can go until I retire.
I,m 59 now so only 6 years to go.
Who ever is saying we go to school for free sorry we do not.
Every one on NFN wants the netting to stop but 8 people . We had a meeting last night about it so we will see what happens.
If it does not go the way of stopping the netting then most FN members have said they will all ask for there qouta from the band council and this will leave nothing for the net fishing.

[grog]

O ITD, i have you on ignore, so i normally don have to read your comments, but i was unlucky enough to have seen that one before i logged in, anyway, yes, Nipissing is a small lake, when you can motor from one end to the other to check your gill nets everyday, it's a small lake. It isnt a great lake, it isn't the ocean, of course your reply has nothing to do with the actual problem, but thanks for coming out.

[intothedeep]

O ITD, i have you on ignore, so i normally don have to read your comments, but i was unlucky enough to have seen that one before i logged in, anyway, yes, Nipissing is a small lake, when you can motor from one end to the other to check your gill nets everyday, it's a small lake. It isnt a great lake, it isn't the ocean, of course your reply has nothing to do with the actual problem, but thanks for coming out.

No problem brother, always a pleasure... I on the other don't ignore your comments, because I find them amusing, and don't take them too seriously I listen to all viewpoints, and try not to live in ignorance...

After Nipigon and Simcoe, Nip is ON's 3rd largest inland lake, so no Nipissing is not a "relatively small inland lake", it's a Great Lake by inland standards... 7th largest lake in ON including the Great Lakes!

You're trying to portray it as a small lake that can't take a ton of pressure, the truth is it can because of how big it is... The question is only how much????

Anyways as for the FN, no easy answers there...

[blasted_saber]

No problem brother, always a pleasure... I on the other don't ignore your comments, because I find them amusing, and don't take them too seriously I listen to all viewpoints, and try not to live in ignorance...

After Nipigon and Simcoe, Nip is ON's 3rd largest inland lake, so no Nipissing is not a "relatively small inland lake", it's a Great Lake by inland standards... 7th largest lake in ON including the Great Lakes!

You're trying to portray it as a small lake that can't take a ton of pressure, the truth is it can because of how big it is... The question is only how much????

Anyways as for the FN, no easy answers there...

The whole point of this thread is that the biologists in charge of the lake have bluntly stated the lake cannot support the pressure it is currently being placed under. They know what it is, and its not a lot.

[Dobermanhunter]

great lakes or not netting takes its toll on fish populations, since they can pretty much net on shore if they want to now. in my area you can tell when the "fishing boats" go out set nets. theres a noticeable lack of fish movement. the government needs to step in and actually enforce something on these people they get away with enough crap.

[sawbill]

When talking about walleye or any species it doesn't matter what size the lake is. What matters is that portion of the lake that is habitat for any particular species.