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August 1st, 2014, 02:43 PM
#41

Originally Posted by
jaycee
This I am posting just as a matter of interest in this thread .
Two dogs that I was familiar with came from a mixed breed both retrievers, Labrador Retriever and Golden Retriever, two pups from the same litter purchased by friends [cheaply].
One pup black in colour turned out to be an excellent retriever and water dog, also would hunt and lead it's owner to dead deer. It was for that owner his perfect dog.
The other pup litter mate , [yellow ]in colour and although was a better looking dog as it grew , turned out to be dumb as a stump. That owner tried everything he could do to teach it to retrieve or even get into the water , all turned out to be of no avail, that dog just turned out to be a door mat and just ran around chasing the kids and destroying things.
That dogs owner finally gave up and found the dog a good home and purchased a dog of known pedigree and was very happy.
Mixed breeds ? you never can tell what you get , could be the best of the two or the worst.
Agree 100% - that's what 'good breeding' is all about - reproducibility in breeding. Not only making sure that there are some very good dogs, but also making sure there are no bad ones.
I had a mixed breed that was the best hunting dog I could imagine...deer, coons, ducks, vermin of any sort. But hard-headed and completely untrainable. Could not even be trained the simplest things. But could he ever hunt...
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August 1st, 2014 02:43 PM
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August 1st, 2014, 04:56 PM
#42
In retriever trials a cross bred dog will never win a particular stake. The reason is simple, all dogs entered must be CKC/AKC registered and said registration is printed in the competing catalogue for that stake for all to see.
Kind of makes it difficult to discuss the possibility of it happening when said possibility does not exist.
Several of the first 'labs' I had were from questionable breeding. Did any of them ever amount to anything?.............No. In fact they pale in comparison to all of my dogs that came later once I was introduced to the real world of retrievers.
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August 1st, 2014, 05:21 PM
#43
Gee, you guys make it sound like Eugenics has all sorts of advantages....why haven't they done it with humans; breed in strong genes, rid us of diseases, make a strong more vigorous human. Surely someone in History has made plans for an Aryan race...LOL...
Last edited by MikePal; August 1st, 2014 at 05:23 PM.
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August 1st, 2014, 05:25 PM
#44
Godwin's law is borne out again.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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August 1st, 2014, 05:31 PM
#45

Originally Posted by
welsh
Godwin's law is borne out again.
Yup and it only took five pages and to be honest I am not really surprised who played that card.
Last edited by trkyhntr21; August 1st, 2014 at 05:38 PM.
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August 1st, 2014, 05:42 PM
#46
Never mention or inferred anything about Nazis/Hitler...( the concept of an Aryan race pre-dates them by a few centuries.about the sane time they started to breed dogs
) . I think you need to do some reading before you make accusations...
here, I'll help you; ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race
Last edited by MikePal; August 1st, 2014 at 06:07 PM.
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August 1st, 2014, 06:03 PM
#47
and before you go off on a tangent...the comment is to question why the problems associated with Eugenics are ignored and the concept is so heartily embraced by Dog breeders.
It has come back to bite them in the arse with some breeds.
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August 1st, 2014, 06:16 PM
#48

Originally Posted by
MikePal
and before you go off on a tangent...
You're already off on a tangent. We're talking about the breeding of dogs, not eugenics (a political movement regarding humans, by definition), not Aryans, and not attempts to create a master race. You're simply trolling, trying to drag the thread into the mud.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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August 1st, 2014, 06:28 PM
#49
Yes...I figured you wouldn't be up for the debate....too bad...but as always, you've ruined the opportunity.
select..."ignore".
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August 1st, 2014, 06:38 PM
#50
in the corner again Mike
Let's discuss eugenics sometime in the off topic section, but it's a pretty sensitive subject this week . 100 years ago to day, Germany declared war on Russia.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett