Stan Jonathon Charged.

[stilchen67]

From what I understand Stan shot this rifle from the road in his vehicle. Is that true?

[urbansherpa]

Regardless of the actions of the victim, Mr. Jonathon is responsible for his actions. Whether or not the victim had a bow, or was dressed in orange is immaterial. Had it been a hiker, dog walker, or your kid climbing a tree dressed in 'fashionable camouflage', the result would have been the same. Ask yourself if you would have taken that 350 yard shot.

Being a hunter, I don't walk the bush without orange, during hunting season. My brother doesn't hunt, doesn't care/know when hunting season is, and doesn't wear orange when walking his dog in the bush. The 'hunter orange' laws don't apply to him.

Although I'm quite sure Mr. Jonathon is one of the nicest guys I'd ever meet, he is still culpable. It is ridiculous that it should take 2 years to lay a charge. The law should apply to everyone equally, regardless of heritage, culture, or location.

[Roper]

Its my understanding that he made the shot from the road using his vehicle as a rest. I also recall that he was charged soon after the incident. Maybe they just changed the charge. Recharged?

[trimmer21]

Its my understanding that he made the shot from the road using his vehicle as a rest. I also recall that he was charged soon after the incident. Maybe they just changed the charge. Recharged?

IIRC,the original charge was "careless hunting" and "careless use of a firearm". The new criminal charges were just upgraded and added. It looks like the added charges were to make sure something sticks and he doesn't get a complete "walk".

[Angus]

Askov anyone ? Lol

[urbansherpa]

Askov anyone ? Lol

No kidding! Right to a speedy trial? I think not.

They'll end up throwing several charges at him so he can plea to the lesser charge. What is Kosids life worth?
im guessing a two year jail term. So very unfortunate.

[exocet]

yes. and in treaty territories.
The pinery Prov park for example has a native controlled cull. 30-30s, .270 etc are used.
Also. pending what treaty a band/nation is under, with landowners permission or conservation areas permits, some first nations can hunt and use centre fires.
Believe it or not, and i know alot of you will not, and thats your choice, but i DO know native hunters who hunt treaty areas and do not shoot people, dogs and actually do not shoot 8 to 10 deer. There are some who actually take two for their own families and sometimes 1 for there reserve food bank or soup kitchen to donate.
I also personally know of a non-native and native who hunt waterfowl, yotes and bunnies together.
So do not readily assume every native is a poacher or a threat.

[welsh]

Stan Jonathon was originally charged with Criminal Negligence Causing Death and Careless Use of a Firearm in December, 2012.
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/...xDN/story.html

The news from last week is not that he was charged, but that he has been committed to stand trial Nov. 20th. I don't know what the initial report Trimmer21 saw actually said, but....
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL.../22039261.html

It's not unusual for something like this to take two years to wind its way from the initial charges to the trial.

The minumum sentence for Criminal Negligence Causing Death when a firearm is involved is four years.

[pbonura]

yes. and in treaty territories.
The pinery Prov park for example has a native controlled cull. 30-30s, .270 etc are used.
Also. pending what treaty a band/nation is under, with landowners permission or conservation areas permits, some first nations can hunt and use centre fires.
Believe it or not, and i know alot of you will not, and thats your choice, but i DO know native hunters who hunt treaty areas and do not shoot people, dogs and actually do not shoot 8 to 10 deer. There are some who actually take two for their own families and sometimes 1 for there reserve food bank or soup kitchen to donate.
I also personally know of a non-native and native who hunt waterfowl, yotes and bunnies together.
So do not readily assume every native is a poacher or a threat.

Dundas valley has controlled deer hunt where they are suppose to use bows only last. Last year I heard so many gunshots on a Sunday to boot. They were out shooting like crazy. I am not painting everyone with a brush but there have been a lot of poaching in the past and this incident looks like someone was careless with a 270 weatherby and shot someone in the back off a road.

[Huntnfish]

Dundas valley has controlled deer hunt where they are suppose to use bows only last. Last year I heard so many gunshots on a Sunday to boot. They were out shooting like crazy. I am not painting everyone with a brush but there have been a lot of poaching in the past and this incident looks like someone was careless with a 270 weatherby and shot someone in the back off a road.

Any chance you heard Tamarac gun club in Ancaster?