game warden says no kids

[fratri]

Attachment 27281 How's this?

Very good and very sensible.....

[fratri]

there needs to be less restrictions on youth hunters wishing to accompany an adult on a hunt in Ontario is the bottom line. unfortunately there are those who have abused and continue to abuse their rights, and thus we have strict laws and less opportunity.

But the article contradicts your comments.

[rumbleram]

my comments have no direct tie to the article...just a generalization

if you read the letter of the law vs the CO answer in OOD ... the CO answer in fact contradicts the law... as it states one may not even "lay in wait" of an animal if the result is the animal being killed...

[rick_iles]

Bottom line.... take your kids hunting with you, enjoy them while they are young, just don't let them participate in the hunt until you have to recover your game.....

[rick_iles]

my comments have no direct tie to the article...just a generalization

if you read the letter of the law vs the CO answer in OOD ... the CO answer in fact contradicts the law... as it states one may not even "lay in wait" of an animal if the result is the animal being killed...

Poor horse !!!!!! Lol

[Fishy Wishy]

my comments have no direct tie to the article...just a generalization

if you read the letter of the law vs the CO answer in OOD ... the CO answer in fact contradicts the law... as it states one may not even "lay in wait" of an animal if the result is the animal being killed...

This is why the CO states the kid (actually any unlicensed observer) cannot spot game for you. Should they point out the game they are hunting...otherwise how would their lying in wait cause game to be killed? See no contradiction.

[Fishy Wishy]

Poor horse !!!!!! Lol

Guns and Roses had a song about this thread!!!

Sometimes I feel like I'm beating a dead horse. I don't know what could be bringin' me down.

[rumbleram]

if they are lying in wait with someone who is hunting and as a result the animal is killed ... then they are hunting - BY DEFINTION of the laws. it does not say they have to be involved in causing the death of animal... sittin there with dad.... dad is hunting...result is dad shoots a deer - then they were ,by definition, hunting....

regardless i'm not here to dispute minute interpretations of the law - as I do not agree with kids not being allowed to hunt or accompany adults while hunting. after all I'm chairman of our Delta Waterfowl chapter and our main goal is youth movement in hunting populous.

take your kids hunting...if you don't hunt - send them with someone who does.

[Fishy Wishy]

if they are lying in wait with someone who is hunting and as a result the animal is killed ... then they are hunting - BY DEFINTION of the laws. it does not say they have to be involved in causing the death of animal... sittin there with dad.... dad is hunting...result is dad shoots a deer - then they were ,by definition, hunting....

Believe that if you want but it is wrong.

The word "result" indicates a cause and effect relationship.

Lying in wait beside your dad, mother, brother, uncle or pet sasquatch will not cause your dad.....or pet sasquatch to kill game. The observer being there did not result in game being killed.

Part D of that reg was put in place to relieve bird watchers and photographers among others from the classification of hunting...the part about unless it results in killing of game is to prevent their actions from causing death...such as chasing deer to exhaustion or to a highway collision etc.

regardless i'm not here to dispute minute interpretations of the law - as I do not agree with kids not being allowed to hunt or accompany adults while hunting. after all I'm chairman of our Delta Waterfowl chapter and our main goal is youth movement in hunting populous.

take your kids hunting...if you don't hunt - send them with someone who does.

I agree...and do so legally with no fear of wrongdoing

[JBen]

Lol Rick and FW wouldn't beating a horse be hunting
I am surprised how often this gets hashed out, when a) its pretty clear….b) its been covered so many times…..c) and the MNR has addressed a number of times.


/sigh

Rumblum, I suppose if Im lying in wait as I do so very often as a professional photographer both for myself, as a freelancer ( various people, companies, magazines buy my images) And a WT trips over me and breaks its neck, yeah technically by the letter of the law some CO might say "your hunting".

As a contributor to Ontario Out of Doors where sometimes Im asked/sent to go to X with a writer and take the pics as they hunt…Or go get something myself.

I don't have my Turkey liscence…Ive gone on Turkey hunts for them.
This was one…Here you go MNR I and OOD are breaking the law, heres the proof….come charge me.



Was I hunting when I took this pic? Wearing my Orange? No, oops guess I and OOD are in trouble.


The day I took this pic I was just coming out of my divorce and didn't have my liscence. Guess OOD and myself are in trouble, especially because this was an "assignment" where they asked me to travel to SW Ontario to get this cover shot


The key operative words in the definition are anyone can go….they aren't hunting, (aiding) unless their actions result in game being Harassed, captured, injured, killed.

A child calling…yeah technically thats illegal. Their actions are resulting in the birds being shot. I know many are perfectly ok with (to each his own)..

I can't call worth a lick., Im horrible There are kids who are better callers (champions) than many adults. Anyone mind if I have a kid like that call while I unload shell after shell?

Unless game is injured, killed, harassed, captured as a result of a persons (non hunters) actions.

Its all good