New $2.00 Special Fee for MNR

[terrym]

$300 Billion amounts to $50K owed on behalf of every person in this province.

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If I could be allowed to clear off my share and be exempted from income tax I would write the $50k cheque today.

[terrym]

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I don't know where you're getting your info. Just take MNR for example: Massive layoffs over the years. Programs gone to the private sector, Fire protection recycle gone private, Provincial parks closed, JR programs gone, timber management gone to private sector, tree planting gone, trapping management gone, fur sealing gone, F & W licence issuing gone private, fleet maintenance gone private, budget cuts--this just off the top of my head in just one government agency.
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As a tax payer I applaud as many services being transferred to the private sector as possible. The accumulating pension liability will prevent my kids from getting basic necessities we abuse and feel entitled to today. Tax payers aren't on the hook for staff to work 25 years and retire for 20 more on the tax dime. It's an outdated model we simply can't afford anymore.

[Bluebulldog]

If I could be allowed to clear off my share and be exempted from income tax I would write the $50k cheque today.

Sure. The Wynne Government would sign off on that tomorrow.

....they would then proceed to levy a taxpayer surcharge / special fee on you for the rest of your days.......but hey....it wont be called a "tax" right?

[sawbill]

Would you applaud the same scenario if it was your employer downsizing and contracting out your position and your job future and that of your family was not looking so rosy?
Everyone is a taxpayer, government workers too.
I get the distinct impression you are blaming only government for our present financial woes. Maybe unions in the private sector can foot some of the blame???

[JBen]

I might recommend people go back and read the link I included re the MNR/MOE. And how successive gov'ts have grown and grown big brother (size, cost, taxation/revenue) while gutting the MNR/MOE..aka robbing Peter (MNR/MOE) to pay Paul ( preferred favored children)….

The current state of the province, the economy /economics , PS and Unions, vote buying, catering to the big cities while ignoring rural/north, scandals and waste, and some really concerning looming problems like rising Interest rates, healthcare cost, seniors on fixed incomes without enough saved, an aging population, crumbling infrastructure, declining academic scores and our youth spending tens of thousands on post secondary Pedigrees, then taking jobs at McDs, and much more.

Fact's are there a number of elephants.

Best hashed out in the off topic forum

[Fishy Wishy]

The fallacy in that Sawbill, is that when Private Sector unions get greedy, the business folds (or moves somewhere more competitive if that is a viable/feasible option...which for some isn't and they just fold). Government agencies don't fold. Their legacy costs don't go away.

[Bonkers]

Well I don't see anyone saying that GM and Chrysler employees should receive their pay and or retirement. All sectors get government assistance. They are one of the main reasons were in this mess to begin with

[werner.reiche]

Well I don't see anyone saying that GM and Chrysler employees should receive their pay and or retirement. All sectors get government assistance. They are one of the main reasons were in this mess to begin with

That they received government money was wrong - I don't think that too many tax payers aside from those employed by the auto industry and their families think this was a good idea.

To say the bailout is one of the main reasons Ontario is in a mess is plain and simple false - the cost of the bailout was 13.7 billion $USD, of which 9B was paid by the feds. 4.7 billion is a drop in the bucket for Ontario - do I need to bring up the gas plants?

[terrym]

To say the bailout is one of the main reasons Ontario is in a mess is plain and simple false - the cost of the bailout was 13.7 billion $USD, of which 9B was paid by the feds. 4.7 billion is a drop in the bucket for Ontario - do I need to bring up the gas plants?

Or eHealth, or GEA, or the coming PANAM games.

[Fishy Wishy]

Well I don't see anyone saying that GM and Chrysler employees should receive their pay and or retirement. All sectors get government assistance. They are one of the main reasons were in this mess to begin with

Shouldn't you be out looking employment rather than worrying about what GM pensioners are entitled to?