Handgun carrying on your own property? bear defense.

[Bluebulldog]

There is the chance of anyone calling the police on you no matter where you are or what firearm you're using whether you're deer hunting with a slug gun, coyote hunting with a rifle, or carrying a short shotgun on your own property. As long as you're legal, have at er.


I REALLY wish firearms owners would stop this "Oh, you better be careful and hide it or someone might call the cops" crap. Stop spreading this filth and putting the idea into shooters heads that we should be hiding our legal activities. In doing so you're simply making the anti's happy. Be proud of your hobby, don't hide it!


Anyone who thinks we should hide legal activities has been listening to or reading the anti propaganda bit too much...

Spoken like someone who has yet to see what a legal defense costs, bogus charges or not.

Discretion is the better part of valor. Be proud, but be smart.

[MikePal]

I REALLY wish firearms owners would stop this "Oh, you better be careful and hide it or someone might call the cops" crap. Stop spreading this filth and putting the idea into shooters heads that we should be hiding our legal activities. In doing so you're simply making the anti's happy. Be proud of your hobby, don't hide it!

Anyone who thinks we should hide legal activities has been listening to or reading the anti propaganda bit too much...

There's a big difference between flaunting your legal rights and drawing attention to yourself and quietly exercising your rights while having regards to those that may find them offensive. Best to avoid conflict, even if your right.

[400bigbear]

Sure carry a handgun to look cool to your buddies on your property You need something to protect yourself with and you won't have to feed it anything but lead and a bit of gun oil on ocassion . Tell the officer if you get questioned that I told you this on an open forum and that I am 100 % correct He will know me and that I'm right . He will tell you he has seen me do this regularly .

[Fox]

There's a big difference between flaunting your legal rights and drawing attention to yourself and quietly exercising your rights while having regards to those that may find them offensive. Best to avoid conflict, even if your right.

Exactly, in the back woods well away from people, no problem.
I know of people using antiques for protection in the mountains, they also have them for survival, but they keep them in a locked case unloaded in a duffel bag while they load up the canoe and don't put it in the open carry holster until they are well away from the vehicles.

[400bigbear]

Spoken like someone who has yet to see what a legal defense costs, bogus charges or not.

Discretion is the better part of valor. Be proud, but be smart.

Actually I believe I know this poster and he absolutely knows the legal costs and if I recall correctly he won his case although it was not related to this particular thread or scenario . We need more like ch312 to challenge the letter of the law at times if for nothing else other than what rights/ priveleges we do have and keep us aware of the fact Don't shoot the messenger for educating with good info .

[400bigbear]

Exactly, in the back woods well away from people, no problem.
I know of people using antiques for protection in the mountains, they also have them for survival, but they keep them in a locked case unloaded in a duffel bag while they load up the canoe and don't put it in the open carry holster until they are well away from the vehicles.

Who are you Fox to impose your moral issues or how it looks to anyone or anywhere on us Again stop with your personal judgement calls .Standup for hunters and firearms owners for a change instead of constantly the negative .

[Fox]

Who are you Fox to impose your moral issues or how it looks to anyone or anywhere on us Again stop with your personal judgement calls .Standup for hunters and firearms owners for a change instead of constantly the negative .

I never said anything personal to anyone.

Do what you want, I have never told anyone they cannot do anything, I just suggested what I would do it that situation.

I have been ripped on this board for doing things that were ethical in my mind (40 yard shot with a bow and finding it unsafe to put crosshairs on a bull with no bull tag).

You can do what ever the heck you want, take your shotgun not locked with no case and drive around downtown Toronto, go nuts, have at it, I really do not care.

I simply stated what others have done to keep from causing any potentially expensive issues from arising.

[400bigbear]

Well Fox it may seem like I'm picking on you lad but I truly wish you no ill will . You just make me crazy with your anal stuff . Lol yes my friend young people I lose patience with these days so your not alone Lol they say I'm grumpy and often that is true but then again I have lived more and earned that right as old Grandma Boo used to tell me when I was young and she was old . Liol

[Fox]

I have to disagree if the "OR" ref you are making was true it would have been worder differently
-attach a secure locking device so the firearms cannot be fired.
-Lock them in a cabinet, container room, or vault......

The "OR" negates the whole first statement if the conditions of the "OR" are met, furthermore a vault or safe or specific modifications ARE different than a cabinet.

Just to finish this up. Here is the link the RCMP sent me.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/r...age-3.html#h-4

Their opening statement was as such "The Chief Firearms Officers (CFOs) of the Provinces and Territories have staff that inspect storage facilities for suitability. ".

This to me says that unless they say that your cabinet, vault, room or otherwise meets their inspection that restricted need to be rendered inoperable and stored in a locking container of some sort.

This may not be exactly as expected but if keeping a trigger lock on it keeps it from being confiscated then I will store it with a trigger lock on it.

Do what you want with the information, this email response was as expected.

[rick_iles]

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Just to finish this up. Here is the link the RCMP sent me.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/r...age-3.html#h-4

Their opening statement was as such "The Chief Firearms Officers (CFOs) of the Provinces and Territories have staff that inspect storage facilities for suitability. ".

This to me says that unless they say that your cabinet, vault, room or otherwise meets their inspection that restricted need to be rendered inoperable and stored in a locking container of some sort.

This may not be exactly as expected but if keeping a trigger lock on it keeps it from being confiscated then I will store it with a trigger lock on it.

Do what you want with the information, this email response was as expected.

Fox, the link they gave you is Sec6 of the Firearms Act, Reg. You may only store a restricted firearm as described in clause (i)..OR......repeat...OR (ii)....

The CFO doesn't inspect storage facilities unless you request it, are a dealer or a collector, with very few exceptions.
If you stick to the legislation, you won't have a problem. So, no you don't need a trigger lock when storing a restricted firearm in a vault !
I did an inspection of a big collector. He had a room specifically built, with no windows, a steel door and jamb, triple deadbolt locks, and alarmed. He likely couldn't afford a trigger lock for the 100 plus restricteds he had !!!