Open Carry in the Bush

[welsh]

This thread is a laugh riot give that we're all arguing over something that's simply not going to happen.

Reality is that it is far more likely handguns will be banned in Canada within 25 years than that we will see open or concealed carry. For good or for ill what happens in major cities drives how the law is made, because that's where most of the people actually live -- that's what makes big cities big, lest we forget. Gripe all ya want, but the broad public opinion in this country on handguns is clear. None of these arguments is worth a fart in the wind.

The best comments here were made early. Let's go back....

3. Other than a vague promise that "once they raise $150K they will get the ball rolling", there is very little substance by way of strategy, planning or anything quantifiable except for an idea that wilderness carry is good, and they want it.

IMHO, this is a splitting of the pie with Firearms support in this country.

Yup, and as I pointed out in that other thread, raising money for lawyers does squat because the only path to allowing wilderness carry is legislative change. There is no basis on which to challenge the law in court. And legislative change is about as likely as?

Focus on the problems at hand, such as the classification system.

If I was that afraid of the bush that I felt I needed to carry a firearm for protection, it certainly wouldn't be a handgun !

That's how I feel about it. A handgun would be a great convenience to a trapper, for the purpose of dispatching animals, but anyone whose knees knock together at the prospect of encountering a bear ought to stop calling himself an outdoorsman.

[thunderbelly]

Would be fun stalking a rabbit with a .22 handgun.

[Bluebulldog]

There are tons of stuff you can't do with a long gun. While in the bush, our on your own property... just to name a few.
Carry chicken feed
Carry deer feed
Shovel snow
Split fire wood
Cut wood..
Pretty much anything that requires allot of movement... and a sling won't work... I tried shoveling snow with my rifle on a sling... it would not work.. we have a massive coyote problem here and every day in near the chickens our deer bait they are near me... the other night they were circling me... but well.. having an un encased shotgun at dark is illegal... (not on my property)... a 22 handgun would of made me feel a lot more comfy than my buck 110 knife did..
I had coyote prints in my foot prints on my second trip back in the bush that night.. (one for feed one for the salt)..
And again a shotgun would not of helped.. as I would not of been able to carry out with the 80lb bag of corn...

Then you my friend have not been shown how to carry with a sling properly.

[blasted_saber]

Why does it have to be about protection? I want a .22 revolver for small game. I know guys who want to hunt deer with .44 mag handguns. Whats wrong with that?

For protection on the trap line or those into exploration work the only practical firearm to carry is a handgun. And they're not much value tucked under a parka should you need to access it real quick.
However, I question the actual need of one for protection anywhere in Ontario including the far north where polar bears might be encountered. Their real value is in dispatching an animal caught up in a leg hold trap.

[Iggy]

Ok I was going to stay silent, but can't any more. I have been shooting handguns for almost 40 years, for both enjoyment and competition. I also carried a handgun on my duty belt for years before retirement. I have spent lots of time on a range and have known a lot of handgun shooters. I hope some of my retired brothers and sisters don't take offence but.....I would much rather stand beside a civilian handgun shooter than most sworn ones. I have had an officer hit my target on a range on a regular basis. This wouldn't be bad if they were not 5 positions over from me. I have never seen a civilian shooter do this. I have seen range instructors shoot across the range striking a wall with an unintentional discharge. Never seen a civilian do that. there should be nothing wrong with open carry while in the bush. Personally, I think the gang bangers and thugs who carry may think different if they issued CCW's in Canada to anyone who wanted to go thru a course. I live and worked a border town across from Detroit, so we were one of the largest ports of entry for illegal firearms making their way down the 401 to TO. Comparing a hunter with a criminal who carries a gun, and shoots another criminal IS CRIMINAL. We are not criminals, so don't compare me having a handgun in the bush to shoot a grouse to a drug dealer shooting another over turf.

You were a cop????
And just where did anyone call someone who wanted to carry a handgun to hunt, a criminal.
Man you guys are delusional.

[Iggy]

Why does it have to be about protection? I want a .22 revolver for small game. I know guys who want to hunt deer with .44 mag handguns. Whats wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with that, and there are places you can go where you can do just that, but not in Canada and it never will be

[greatwhite]

Several cops on here disagreed with you. Also as indicated Cops are not as trained as you believed. They are require to pass an exam every 6 months. Some also fail and have to retake it because they cannot hit the target. Also you would be surprised at the number of Cops who do not even know how to handle firearms safely. I suggest you do some research.

You were a cop????
And just where did anyone call someone who wanted to carry a handgun to hunt, a criminal.
Man you guys are delusional.

[jaycee]

Ok I was going to stay silent, but can't any more. I have been shooting handguns for almost 40 years, for both enjoyment and competition. I also carried a handgun on my duty belt for years before retirement. I have spent lots of time on a range and have known a lot of handgun shooters. I hope some of my retired brothers and sisters don't take offence but.....I would much rather stand beside a civilian handgun shooter than most sworn ones. I have had an officer hit my target on a range on a regular basis. This wouldn't be bad if they were not 5 positions over from me. I have never seen a civilian shooter do this. I have seen range instructors shoot across the range striking a wall with an unintentional discharge. Never seen a civilian do that. there should be nothing wrong with open carry while in the bush. Personally, I think the gang bangers and thugs who carry may think different if they issued CCW's in Canada to anyone who wanted to go thru a course. I live and worked a border town across from Detroit, so we were one of the largest ports of entry for illegal firearms making their way down the 401 to TO. Comparing a hunter with a criminal who carries a gun, and shoots another criminal IS CRIMINAL. We are not criminals, so don't compare me having a handgun in the bush to shoot a grouse to a drug dealer shooting another over turf.

Thank you for standing up for civilian shooters.
The damage that was done over the years at our club, was done by police, shot out lights, holes in the ceiling , wall, chips into the concrete floor , the target turning mechanism damaged, all done by the police till they finally quit due to embarrassment.
Police are trained to shoot at center of mass, a dedicated civilian shooter will and can hit a button on a shirt front target, they are not spray and pray shooters, they practice constantly because they want too , not because it is forced upon them by their superiors.
Most police officers do not fire a handgun at any other time than when they are told to do so in order to "qualify".

When I was shooting competitively, I would shoot over 15,000 rounds yearly, and my classification was "Master Class", have shot against some of the best .

If the opportunity ever came around, I would definitely want to carry a handgun to hunt with , and definitely would not go around shooting at everything nilly willy as some here suggest would happen.

We did have that privilege years ago to be able to hunt with a handgun , it would be nice to be able to do it again , and myself I would again definitely not do anything stupid to jeopardize that privilege if ever it was granted to us by a change in our laws but I doubt that it will happen as there are too many negative people even right here on this forum , most of whom are hunters and as such should stick up for each other.

[skull]

I'm not sure if I'm reading this wrong Bill C42 This is about wilderness protection, doesn't not give you any right to hunt with

[blasted_saber]

If theres nothing wrong with why are you so against it?

Nothing wrong with that, and there are places you can go where you can do just that, but not in Canada and it never will be