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    Quote Originally Posted by topher View Post
    Forget about it. The neighbor obviously doesn't really care.. as long as his gets fixed promptly.. If you are really truly bothered by it rat em out... they are the in laws after all...
    I am sure the neighbours will get tired of having to have siding replaced at some point. Guess they are just getting on my nerves after the last few years....Seems like they have an option, which is basicly that everything the wife and I do has to be Illegal. Maybe someone will stop by and explain what is and is not Illegal to them someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 400bigbear View Post
    Nuisance animal control is not " poaching " . How is it going to come back on you or your bride ? It's not you doing the deed nor is a murder about to be committed that you have knowledge of . Who cares . I know people that smoke dope and if they got busted it has nothing to do with me .
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    They have shot at more then Starlings, Squirrels and a couple cats if I understand correctly.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400bigbear View Post
    You gave them the rules and now it is time to just go back to how you were and not give it a second more thought .

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    Forget about it. The neighbor obviously doesn't really care.. as long as his gets fixed promptly.. If you are really truly bothered by it rat em out... they are the in laws after all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodbender View Post
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    If it was my in-laws I'd rat em out in a heart beat lol... unfortunately my in-laws are the kind of people that drive 50 in a 50...
    I avoid going there... got myself to no more than the visits a year.
    Actually it's not the parents that are bad, its the kids...
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    Call an anonymous tip into crime stoppers. Might even get a reward!! You can buy the beer with it at your next get together.

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    I don't think it is against the law to kill starlings. For some reason, this introduced species is not considered a songbird. Maybe it is or was an agricultural pest.

    If the pellet gun is under 500 fps, then it is not considered a firearm under federal firearms legislation.

    The damage to private property might be a possible charge, but the neighbours seem to be OK with it.

    I don't think there is a charge that could be laid in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmch View Post
    I don't think it is against the law to kill starlings. For some reason, this introduced species is not considered a songbird. Maybe it is or was an agricultural pest.

    If the pellet gun is under 500 fps, then it is not considered a firearm under federal firearms legislation.

    The damage to private property might be a possible charge, but the neighbours seem to be OK with it.

    I don't think there is a charge that could be laid in this case.
    No it is NOT illegal to shot starlings ( An invasive ) " IF " you have your H1 Outdoor card, or maybe a trapping license( not sure but I think trappers can do things like that maybe).

    The thing about the Air rifle is that even if it is Less then 500 Fps, you still need a H1 and valid Small Game to hunt or shoot animals with it.

    The Fish and Wildlife act classes/considers an Air rifle a Fire Arm regardless of muzzle Velocity when it comes to hunting. Under the Federal Fire Arms Act it is NOT, but under the Fish & Wildlife Act it is...IF you are shooting animals with it.
    Last edited by Snowwalker; December 30th, 2014 at 07:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmch View Post
    I don't think it is against the law to kill starlings. For some reason, this introduced species is not considered a songbird. Maybe it is or was an agricultural pest.

    If the pellet gun is under 500 fps, then it is not considered a firearm under federal firearms legislation.

    The damage to private property might be a possible charge, but the neighbours seem to be OK with it.

    I don't think there is a charge that could be laid in this case.
    Actually there is. This happened in November.

    https://nfa.ca/news/supreme-court-ca...s-are-firearms

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    Thursday, November 13, 2014


    CANADA’S NATIONAL FIREARMS ASSOCIATION MEDIA RELEASE
    SUPREME COURT OF CANADA RULES THAT AIR GUNS ARE "FIREARMS"
    On Wednesday, November 5, the Supreme Court of Canada issued its ruling R. v. Dunn, finding that most air guns are considered “firearms” for all purposes in the Criminal Code except for licensing and registration. The Court affirmed the previous decision of the Ontario Court of Appeal, which itself had overruled a decade of its own jurisprudence in finding that air guns are “firearms”. Prior to this case, the courts had held that air guns are not treated as “firearms” unless they are used for some offensive or unlawful purpose. This decision applies to all air guns that are capable of causing serious bodily injury or death. Most courts have found that any air gun with a velocity of more than 214 feet-per-second meets this threshold. The vast majority of air guns sold across the country are capable of such a velocity. This decision will have numerous significant impacts on those who buy and use air guns lawfully in Canada. First of all, the Criminal Code provisions regarding careless storage, use and transportation of firearms now apply to air guns. Therefore, it is an offence to store or transport an air gun in a “careless” manner. However, because the ordinary firearms Storage Regulations do not apply to air guns, air gun owners are left with absolutely no guidance as to what precisely constitutes careless storage of an air gun. It will be left up to police, prosecutors and courts to determine what charges will be laid, which will be prosecuted and ultimately who will be found guilty of this nebulous and ambiguous offence. Moreover, as air gun owners do not require a license or a firearms safety course to possess these items, law-abiding Canadians will not be put on notice of the new legal requirements for air gun use, storage, transportation, etc. Secondly, the offence of “carrying a concealed weapon” now applies to air guns, regardless of whether or not the air gun owner acts in an otherwise lawful manner. Placing an air gun in a backpack, a pocket or other concealed place will now be a criminal offence. As the Supreme Court has ruled on this issue, the only route forward is through legislative amendment. Canada’s National Firearms Association has been extremely active on this front and will continue to pressure the government and provide all assistance in order to see that this decision be responded to by Parliament. Canada’s National Firearms Association is this country’s largest and most effective advocacy organization representing the interests of firearms owners and users.

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    Solomon Friedman, (EDELSON CLIFFORD D’ANGELO FRIEDMAN LLP) 613-237-2290
    Blair Hagen, Executive VP Communications, 604-753-8682 [email protected]
    Sheldon Clare, President, 250-981-1841 [email protected]
    Shawn Bevins, Executive VP, 819-313-2887 [email protected] (français)
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    I really wish this whole thread could be just a group of us sitting out around a fire in the back yard over a couple beers.

    But since it's not, I just say thanks for putting up with my rant...In this case they have gotten under the wife's skin and PO'ed her as well.

    So much in fact that after three days she just wanted to come home. We normally stay till after the New Year.

    EDIT: I think because of how upset she got maybe the reason I am so irritated about it.
    Last edited by Snowwalker; December 30th, 2014 at 07:27 PM.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmch View Post
    If the pellet gun is under 500 fps, then it is not considered a firearm under federal firearms legislation.


    I don't think there is a charge that could be laid in this case.
    Devil is in the details. For Example in Vaughan where I live Bylaws state no discharge of firearms. They go on to describe whats considered a firearm. Lets just say even sling shots are included.

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