Cabelas in Barrie selling traps to anyone!

[Fenelon]

It probably wouldn't, if the guy had held a licence in the past 5 year period.

[fishy steve]

i noticed in the tsc flyer last week, that they had live coyote traps... dont know about you, but i sure wouldnt be too fond of standing there and holding that trap door open so that wiley could run free haha

[fishfood]

You can buy traps all over the internet. EBay Amazon kijiji you name it they are all there . Good luck with this guys im staying out of it.

[trapper]

In answer to cabellas RE traps.The MNR supervisor at midhurst contacted the store manager RE traps and informed him that legally they can sell them, but anyone without a Lic cannot possess. And he agreed they shoul;dnt be selling them.They have a trapper on staff who will advise them in any future changes.To me its is strange that you can buy them but not possess them as you will be charged.

[topher]

In answer to cabellas RE traps.The MNR supervisor at midhurst contacted the store manager RE traps and informed him that legally they can sell them, but anyone without a Lic cannot possess. And he agreed they shoul;dnt be selling them.They have a trapper on staff who will advise them in any future changes.To me its is strange that you can buy them but not possess them as you will be charged.

Ammunition can be possessed without a pal.. however, it requires a license to aquire by any means.
Just another messed up law.

[fishy steve]

Nowhere in any of that did it indicate he was charged with "unlawful possession"

he had a license, but was trapping where he did not have permission to be trapping...

like fenelon said, they should just put the traps with the guns and ask for a license to sell the traps, not only the fact that somebody could trap a dog or cat in downtown barrie, its also the safety aspect, traps are dangerous, and joe blow off the streets walking in, and buying a conniber, then taking it out into the bush, has a good chance of breaking a bone...

[trimmer21]

Trimmer:
Go to elaws - click on the search box option "current consolidated regulations", then typoe in "trapping" for the search. Pick O.Reg 667/98. The section regarding trap possession should be section 27.
re: confirmation - all of the trap supply companies I buy at make you show proof of authorization - either a trapping licence from the past 5 year block, or an OMAFRA card (not sure if I got the acronym right). If Timmy, the farmer's son wants to buy traps, then Timmy must still show the family OMAFRA card. You'd have to clear it with a CO, but I believe it can't just be anyone residing. It has to be immediate family, no renters or tenants, etc. This is how the trap supply company gets their lawyer to show in court that they practised due dilligence when the litigation begins eg. - this is the type of thing that's happened numerous times recently - hypothetical example - the unauthorized neighbour goes and buys traps at Cabelas. Cabelas is fully aware of the regulations regarding unauthorized possession, but they sell them to this person anyway. Instead of controlling the equipment at the point of sale, they figure the responsibility is on the individual to know the law. The untrained neighbour sets a 220 in his backyard, on the ground, and Buffy, your apricot poodle goes and sticks his head in the trap. Your neighbour gets charged under section 27 of the regs, then you take it farther with civil action. Your neighbour screams bloody murder, saying that they didn't know it was against the law to possess the traps. Why would a reputable place like Cabelas knowingly sell this equipment to an unlicenced person? Cabelas now enters what is called a due dilligence s$#t storm. Everybody loses. The poor neighbour who wasn't notified that he was about to become a criminal and be charged. The person who had their pet killed. Any other animal that happens to get into the traps and gets inhumanely caught, the image of Cabelas via social media. The biggest, and saddest loser in all of this will be Joe Trapper and the trapping industry. no need for this to happen. IMO Cabelas should do what everyone else is doing - pull the traps from the open, unattended shelves, put them behind the desk like the guns, and put up a sign to tell the people that you need to be authorized to be in possession. A simple licence or card check, then hand the person the traps for cash-out.

Thanks a million,Fenelon. I have it. I've never been involved in trapping,so,I'm getting an education.

[Roper]

Licenced trappers need to be protected. They are operating under strict regulations and it doesnt seem correct that the average Joe can step on his toes. Cabelas as a major retailer in the hunting/fishing lifestyle need to make a distinction between responsible partnership with the industry - or - just making the most money they can.

[oaknut]

I guess I'm sitting on the fence for this one.....

I understand that a trappers job is not getting any easier. Trappers seem to have eyes watching them from every direction. That being said can someone explain why the average guy say with a PAL shouldn't be allowed to own traps? I saw the post where somebody mentioned joe blow trapping a dog or a cat in a residential area, could they not just shoot it too? I mean weve all backed the "if guns kill people mine are defective" line yet it seems that traps will just get out there and set themselves for the neighbours dog. A conibear is not any more dangerous than a firearm, bow or car for that matter when they are in the wrong persons hands.

[werner.reiche]

I guess I'm sitting on the fence for this one.....

I understand that a trappers job is not getting any easier. Trappers seem to have eyes watching them from every direction. That being said can someone explain why the average guy say with a PAL shouldn't be allowed to own traps? I saw the post where somebody mentioned joe blow trapping a dog or a cat in a residential area, could they not just shoot it too? I mean weve all backed the "if guns kill people mine are defective" line yet it seems that traps will just get out there and set themselves for the neighbours dog. A conibear is not any more dangerous than a firearm, bow or car for that matter when they are in the wrong persons hands.

I'm pretty much with you on that...except that a firearm has reasonable uses outside of shooting the neighbours dog/cat. A trap doesn't have much use unless you set it - which would be illegal in most cases - if you are not a farmer or trapper. I guess one thing that falls through the cracks with the trapping is that you appear to be registered with a OMFRA to count as a farmer w.r.t. trapping. With other predator control laws, you only need to own poultry/livestock.