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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    I'm pretty sure they mean hand guns,but,I get your drift.....and so is varmint/predator open all year,at least,in the southern part of the province.
    fair enough, he wasn't specific in the OP. Gun laws are leaning towards tightening not loosening. there is no chance for this to ever pass. fight for what we have, pushing for more than that is just banging your head against the wall. most of the population doesn't want more handguns, whether it's in the bush or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flytyermiller View Post
    if you go way back to the OP he didn't specify handguns.
    " Open Carry in the Bush

    Here's an organization that is trying to get the laws changed so we can open carry in the bush."

    however, outside of nitpicking, if this is a handgun specific idea, then i'd like to say that there's no chance it will happen. i have lived and worked in the bush my entire life, i carry a 410 with slugs when i am baiting my 34 bear stands.
    Actually, the OP kind of was. If you went to the link he posted, their goal is clearly stated. But yes, he could have referenced it better.

    "To advocate for the equal right for all Restricted Possession & Acquisition License holders to carry a legal registered holstered handgun on rural and Crown land where a dangerous animal encounter is possible.

    To educate about prevention and avoidance strategies that pertain to dangerous animal encounters and the best way to survive an attack via all means possible including a handgun."
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    Quote Originally Posted by godheadx View Post
    So a .40 cal handgun is more powerful then your deer rifle ? Really now Elmer? Explain this to me!!
    I'm pretty sure he was saying the exact opposite.
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    Regardless, it's not hunting, it's self defence, different ethics, still 5-10 ready to go at all times, more easily accessible then a rifle, and easier to carry. Seems to be the same reason the police have them.

    I don't see how putting handguns in the woods is more dangerous then guys with 300winmags and .308"s.

    When there's only fudd guns left I'm so gonna just switch sides, and we can all be bowhunters. Maybe then we can not sell each other out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marker View Post
    Agreed, the only people who should have hand guns are those in uniform. The reason being is that those individuals go through extensive testing and training, and are also monitored constantly by their peers.
    Not true, my ex neighbour is a Toronto cop. I started talking guns with him and he couldn't keep up, had very little clue about calibers, actions or ammo, all he knew was his own gun and only shot it when required at the range. He doesn't really like guns but needs one as part of his job. Please don't assume people in uniform have the knowledge you are implying as it's simply not the case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by godheadx View Post
    Regardless, it's not hunting, it's self defence, different ethics, still 5-10 ready to go at all times, more easily accessible then a rifle, and easier to carry. Seems to be the same reason the police have them.

    I don't see how putting handguns in the woods is more dangerous then guys with 300winmags and .308"s.

    When there's only fudd guns left I'm so gonna just switch sides, and we can all be bowhunters. Maybe then we can not sell each other out.
    Real bowhunters, or those with wheelie bows and/or crossbows? /Sarcasm

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    I wonder where you got that false information. Qualification for a Police to carry isn't much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marker View Post
    Agreed, the only people who should have hand guns are those in uniform. The reason being is that those individuals go through extensive testing and training, and are also monitored constantly by their peers. Whereas Joe Q Public has no effective monitoring, if you doubt the effect of this just take a walk through any crown land in WMU 87 on a long weekend. On one occasion I counted over 100 rounds going off and heard rounds zip past me, later I found empty 223 boxes. Those individuals showed an absolute lack of self discipline which would only be compounded with the addition of hand guns to the mix.

    As a former resident of the UK I can say that we in Canada have the best hunting opportunities I have seen, the hunting in Europe is a pay-per-use system only for the rich. We as hunters must maintain a level of respect and defence against that type of system (ie anti hunters). As part of that, being able to compromise and quietly go about our business will help ensure the longevity of the sport.

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    I don't really see what dangerous animal encounter has to do with anything. Either the government trusts us to have guns or not.....Years ago they did, with certain qualifications.
    We could use small guns for hunting, target shooting or plinking, just as we do now with long guns. We had to jump thru certain "hoops" to get the paperwork that enabled us to do this, and some could not qualify. This then gave us two levels of people in a country where we were all supposed to be equal. The easy solution was to declare that handguns served no social purpose, and those short barreled low powered 25 and 32 caliber "hideout" guns a positive menace......

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    I wonder where you got that false information. Qualification for a Police to carry isn't much.
    GW, thank you for asking. My comments expressed an opinion based on my experiences, and what I have personally witnessed. I have read other posts in this thread from individuals with more experience than me explaining in more detail what you mentioned and appreciate the feedback.
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    I will go by what some cops have told me and what one of the firearms trainers for the Police have told me. Most officers only know about there own firearm and that's it. In fact you would be surprised at the number of Police who barely pass the qualification each year.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marker View Post
    GW, thank you for asking. My comments expressed an opinion based on my experiences, and what I have personally witnessed. I have read other posts in this thread from individuals with more experience than me explaining in more detail what you mentioned and appreciate the feedback.
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