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February 26th, 2015, 07:47 PM
#1
air guns
is it legal to use a air pistol to hunt grouse while archery hunting for moose in Ontario
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February 26th, 2015 07:47 PM
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February 27th, 2015, 07:17 AM
#2
Has too much time on their hands
NO would be my first guess. But I will wait and see the responses.... air rifle YES.
Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party
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February 27th, 2015, 07:42 AM
#3
We had that problem too. We all used to carry a .410 for grouse while travelling to moose stands.
The law changed and now 3 guys have those 1000fps pellet guns!
They all are ready to challenge if they get caught.
Last year they got a pile of birds!
If you keep doing what you've always done. You'll keep getting what you've always got!
Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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February 27th, 2015, 07:47 AM
#4
An air pistol that is not over 500fps is not considered a restricted firearm and therefore can be used to hunt grouse in Ontario. If you can use it while in an archery only, no clue, call a CO.
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February 27th, 2015, 08:30 AM
#5
The laws recently changed on that Fox, anything listed as 211'fps and above is now the new limit. Police were having too many issues with pellet guns used in crimes. There won't be much of a challenge, a firearm is a firearm. Savage308
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February 27th, 2015, 09:07 AM
#6
Originally Posted by
Savage308
The laws recently changed on that Fox, anything listed as 211'fps and above is now the new limit. Police were having too many issues with pellet guns used in crimes. There won't be much of a challenge, a firearm is a firearm. Savage308
Restricted vs non-restricted.
A pellet gun is not a firearm with respect to classification if it is under 500fps, meaning you can buy one without a PAL and an air pistol is not considered a restricted firearm. With respect to criminal law and storage law, this is where things have changed. Air guns have always been considered firearms if you use it in a crime, so is a banana if you say it is a gun, they just closed a loop hole on airguns under 500fps not falling into storage and transportation laws.
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February 27th, 2015, 09:08 AM
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Here is the link from the RCMP, note the Firearms Act and Criminal Code vs meets the Criminal Code but not all aspects of the Firearms Act.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...me_air-eng.htm
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February 27th, 2015, 12:42 PM
#8
WHY ALL THE CONFUSION?
Why can't the MNR just actually say it clearly in the regulations?
Why is up to the discretion of the officer?
It should say "pellet guns are allowed" or NO pellet guns allowed
How friggin simple!
Me I don't bring any gun up archery moose. I don't like white fowl meat of any kind so I could care less about a grouse.
We argue every year with the other grouse lovers in our camp on this pellet gun legality.
Again why cant the MNR just spell it out in plain old English (or French) or Chinese .. whatever!
If you keep doing what you've always done. You'll keep getting what you've always got!
Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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February 27th, 2015, 01:48 PM
#9
Originally Posted by
SK33T3R
WHY ALL THE CONFUSION?
Why can't the MNR just actually say it clearly in the regulations?
Why is up to the discretion of the officer?
It should say "pellet guns are allowed" or NO pellet guns allowed
How friggin simple!
Me I don't bring any gun up archery moose. I don't like white fowl meat of any kind so I could care less about a grouse.
We argue every year with the other grouse lovers in our camp on this pellet gun legality.
Again why cant the MNR just spell it out in plain old English (or French) or Chinese .. whatever!
It does, take a look at page 23 of the 2014 Ontario Hunting Regulations:
"Air and pellet pistols with a muzzle velocity less than 152 metres (500 feet) per second may be used for hunting in Ontario."
The only question is if you can use a pellet pistol in an archery only season as a pellet gun is not an acceptable firearm for archery only season.
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February 27th, 2015, 02:55 PM
#10
Originally Posted by
Fox
It does, take a look at page 23 of the 2014 Ontario Hunting Regulations:
"Air and pellet pistols with a muzzle velocity less than 152 metres (500 feet) per second may be used for hunting in Ontario."
The only question is if you can use a pellet pistol in an archery only season as a pellet gun is not an acceptable firearm for archery only season.
You cannot carry a firearm other than archery tackle during an archery only season. I spoke to the MNRF about this very issue. Sub-500 fps air guns are still firearms, just not for the regulatory sections.
Last edited by rick_iles; February 27th, 2015 at 02:57 PM.
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