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March 4th, 2015, 09:13 AM
#41

Originally Posted by
welsh
But is that actually happening anywhere?
Well, not in the context of what you have suggested.
My gun club has had some issues with neighbors in the past. This added provision would lend some legal teeth, should one of them decide to try and interfere or picket our entrance.
Now the club had been there for 40+ years, and it always amazes me how anyone would buy, and not know that you might hear some shooting.....but that's for another time....
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
Proud member - Delta Waterfowl, CSSA, and OFAH
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March 4th, 2015 09:13 AM
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March 4th, 2015, 09:42 AM
#42
My club has the same problem. I think realtors don't disclose that the range is there and then you have annoyed homeowners who were expecting peace and quiet and instead got a Canada Day weekend with the Canadian trap championships running next door.
Whether or not they ought to have known before they moved in, they have democratic rights. It should not be criminal to protest or picket the entrance to the club. I see this bill as nothing more than the flipside of bills proposing to criminalize e-collar use, etc. It's not an appropriate use of the criminal law.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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March 4th, 2015, 01:43 PM
#43

Originally Posted by
Bluebulldog
Well, not in the context of what you have suggested.
My gun club has had some issues with neighbors in the past. This added provision would lend some legal teeth, should one of them decide to try and interfere or picket our entrance.
Now the club had been there for 40+ years, and it always amazes me how anyone would buy, and not know that you might hear some shooting.....but that's for another time....
People have a charter right to peacefully protest anything they want. They just can't restrict or interfere with others rights while doing so. That's when The Criminal Code comes into play. In that aspect,a private members bill is redundant because the charges already exist.

Originally Posted by
welsh
My club has the same problem. I think realtors don't disclose that the range is there and then you have annoyed homeowners who were expecting peace and quiet and instead got a Canada Day weekend with the Canadian trap championships running next door.
Whether or not they ought to have known before they moved in, they have democratic rights. It should not be criminal to protest or picket the entrance to the club. I see this bill as nothing more than the flipside of bills proposing to criminalize e-collar use, etc. It's not an appropriate use of the criminal law.
True,but,please note what I mentioned above. There's a responsibility of "due dilligence" on the prospective buyer to find these things out. IMHO,there's no excuse for someone to buy a property then,later, b**ch about any noise from other properties,much like the folks who buy near an airport then complain about the noise....same thing.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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March 4th, 2015, 02:59 PM
#44
Yes. I just mean they have the right to complain, which is not to say their complaints are valid.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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March 4th, 2015, 03:15 PM
#45

Originally Posted by
welsh
I see this bill as nothing more than the flipside of bills proposing to criminalize e-collar use, etc. It's not an appropriate use of the criminal law.
There is not now and has never been a bill to criminalize the use of E-collars. It has ALWAYS BEEN Illegal to operate a transmitter on a frequency for which it is not licensed or certified for.
If you send me your Collars and a copy of our Amateur radio license I would more then happy to convert them to the 2 meter or 70 cm band. These of course will void your warrenty if you have one and the factory would likely never ever do any repairs even if you paid for them.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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March 4th, 2015, 03:29 PM
#46
There is indeed a bill before Parliament right now to criminalize the use of e-collars. I started a thread on it back in the summer.
Look it up.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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March 4th, 2015, 04:02 PM
#47

Originally Posted by
welsh
There is indeed a bill before Parliament right now to criminalize the use of e-collars. I started a thread on it back in the summer.
Look it up.
Let's hope they have the intelligence to differentiate between "shock" obedience collars and simple "beeper" and GPS locators.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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March 4th, 2015, 04:02 PM
#48

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
True,but,please note what I mentioned above. There's a responsibility of "due dilligence" on the prospective buyer to find these things out. IMHO,there's no excuse for someone to buy a property then,later, b**ch about any noise from other properties,much like the folks who buy near an airport then complain about the noise....same thing.
You mean like condo buyers in TO buying next to a slaughterhouse that had been there for 80+ years and complaining about the smell?
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
Proud member - Delta Waterfowl, CSSA, and OFAH
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March 4th, 2015, 04:05 PM
#49

Originally Posted by
Bluebulldog
You mean like condo buyers in TO buying next to a slaughterhouse that had been there for 80+ years and complaining about the smell?
Yessir,exactly like that.LOL
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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March 4th, 2015, 04:15 PM
#50
Yes , and if they get the #s, = voters , they can make you move.