Labradoodles

[yellow dog]

Absolutely nothing from what I can see on the manorlakelabradoodles about health test being done such as hips, elbows, EIC,CNM etc.

[MikePal]

Absolutely nothing from what I can see on the manorlakelabradoodles about health test being done such as hips, elbows, EIC,CNM etc.

Along with your Manor Lake Puppy you will receive a copy of their vaccination/worming record, spay/neuter certificate, microchip number and information, Manor Lake's Puppy Packet “Your Puppy and You,” Manor Lake's FAQ's, a Manor Lake leash, Lupine collar guaranteed for life, a bag of Taste of the Wild High Prairie Canine Formula Kibble, a full veterinary health exam with a clear fecal exam as well as the above mentioned 30 days of free pet insurance through Trupanion (you must call to activate).

I guess you will have to call them YD and ask what is included in a 'full' vet exam...

[yellow dog]

I don't think so MP the website was enough for me.lol

[last5oh_302]

Yeah, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a labradoodle (or anydoodle) backyard breeder that does full health testing. Every pup on kijiji comes vet checked, which amounts to pretty much nothing.
It's difficult enough finding a purebred dog from an ethical breeder that does health testing.

[yellow dog]

And it's easy to pretty up a website with all the so called plus reasons to have a Labradoodle and leave out the most important health concerns.

[yellow dog]

Yeah, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a labradoodle (or anydoodle) backyard breeder that does full health testing. Every pup on kijiji comes vet checked, which amounts to pretty much nothing.
It's difficult enough finding a purebred dog from an ethical breeder that does health testing.

All my purebred dogs have come from ethical breeders and have not had any bad experiences.

[MikePal]

Saying they don't do a 'full' health check without knowing the facts really weakens your argument YD...maybe do some research before you post your opinion instead of facts..

According to the ALA website, if your an accredited breeder (like Manour Lake) your health testing includes;

When you purchase a puppy from an ALA accredited breeder you now do so knowing that comprehensive DNA testing has guided the breeder to select the parents of your puppy in the hope that he or she will lead a long and healthy life as a valued member of your family.


The expanded policy now includes screening for the following conditions:

Cystinuria
Centronuclear Myopathy
Exercise Induced Collapse
Myotubuular Myopathy X Linked
Neonatal Encephalopathy
Von willebrands disease Type I,
Degenerative Myelopathy
Autosomal Hereditary Recessive Nephropathy
Phosphofructokinase Deficiency (Glycogen Storage disease)
Progressive Renal Atrophy (PRA)

from: http://www.laa.org.au/index.php/114-test

[Sharon]

This doesn't bother me as much as it once did. Must be old age.

All our treasured breeds came from a mix. Some of us have a gut reaction when we think of our setter or lab being mixed now.

Below you can see how the GSP developed.

If folks want to pay big bucks that's their choice.
I had a lab friend -big in trials - now passed on - who paid close to $10 000 for his pup.


"Unlike nearly every other sporting breed the German Shorthaired Pointer wasn’t developed from the inbreeding of a single specimen. Most breeds and virtually every line of sporting dog are the result of the liberal and purposeful use of a particular specimen whopossessed the desired characteristics of the breeder. In tracing our dogs back to the very beginning of the German Stud Dog Books we noticed something very interesting. There are many places that the pedigrees would eventually end with “Sire Unknown” “Dame Unknown” and they were not the same animal not even in the same decade.Oddly, when the breed was first recognized and records of actual breedings were being kept the Kurzaar hadn’t even developed into a recognizable type. The result being that our modern Grerman Shorthair genepool comes from many different sources. The drawings and early photos of Kurzhaars clearly show this. Some of the more important dogs were:

http://www.westwindgsps.com/german_s...ed_history.htm

[yellow dog]

That's very interesting MP since it doesn't do us any good on this side of the world. Do you know of any accredited breeders in your neck of the woods ? What is the percentage of accredited breeders in Ontario? Probably 0 . Because a small number of labradoodle breeders do screening doesn't make it more legitimate on the whole or less risky for the purchaser. It would take many many years of careful breeding of genetic healthy stock to get it to an acceptable level. Unfortunately its still more of a crap shoot for puppy purchasers in Ontario because of the lack of accredited breeders. My hat goes off to any breeder that can produce specimens clear of genetic diseases that would in turn cause short debilitating lives. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

[MikePal]

Took 6 seconds on google to find an ALA affiliated Labradoodle breeders in Ontario...there are many more;

http://www.daretodreamlabradoodles.com/aboutus.htm

It really is a waste of time debating anything with you Yellow Dog, you don't bother to read the links, you don't accept facts, you don't bother to even research facts to support your own opinions, which have been proven wrong post after post.

I don't think you even had the gumption to fall off the Trunip truck, your still sitting up there.