need stronger e-collar

[vom Dufenshmirtz]

Itch ein UberMunsterlander, ya?

mOnsterlander, ja, ja, naturlich.

[vom Dufenshmirtz]

Thanks for the tips, Jakezilla.
Normally people don't trash break versatile dogs, she's not a ft setter or pointer
Moreover, this is exactly where I have a problem - she's running through the max stim on the collar.
I like her range most of the time, it's not an issue, the issue if she decides to run after something, there's no way of stopping her.
I will definitely re-visit e-collar basics on the cc and will continue to look for a hotter collar to try.

[Waftrudnir]

Thanks for the tips, Jakezilla.
Normally people don't trash break versatile dogs, she's not a ft setter or pointer
Moreover, this is exactly where I have a problem - she's running through the max stim on the collar.
I like her range most of the time, it's not an issue, the issue if she decides to run after something, there's no way of stopping her.
I will definitely re-visit e-collar basics on the cc and will continue to look for a hotter collar to try.

don't forget that the timing of the stimulation is important! if your dog is alread at the prey's neck, your too late to search for the remote.
although, range and control are not necessarily linked (some dogs are not even under control when on a leash...), the further he's out the harder it gets, so it really depends on the dog
I believe that one should always be able to recall a dog regardless of breed /game combination. Perhaps some will disagree, but at least I haven't noticed any loss in prey drive. Never needed more than 50-60 (not going to be precise when cranking it up in a hurry), but need to do it at the right moment. If you want to keep your dog really versatile, you really shoudn't trash her on deer, just keep her always under control. They'll still learn when they are recalled all the time. The process is slower and not 100%, but the later is what you actually want.