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April 23rd, 2015, 10:05 AM
#41

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
You're entitled to your opinion and conclusions - misguided as they are - just as peta members are. Just don't expect your anti-hunting sentiments to be embraced on a hunting and fishing discussion forum.
It's always good to stick your head in the sand and ignore what's going on in the world. And just because I disagree with one aspect of the sport, doesn't make me anti hunting. But i guess it's easier to play the character assassination game than to actually think about the issues.
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April 23rd, 2015 10:05 AM
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:06 AM
#42

Originally Posted by
rfb
I read that article as well. And good on him for doing that. But i think it's a bit of a stretch to extrapolate that to hunters plural helped create the national parks system.
Not very aware of history are we?
You do realize that virtually all wildlife and habitat conservation measures in place today were originally to protect hunter's interest?
Why do you think organisations like DU and Delta were started?
You do know Audobon was a hunter?
You do know Jack Miner was a hunter?
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:08 AM
#43
That's all very well and good but what does that have to do with trophy hunting today.
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:08 AM
#44

Originally Posted by
rfb
And as I've stated before, for whatever reasons, a few African nations have banned it recently in a move to protect wildlife.
And when hunting and fishing in Canada is banned for the same reason will you still consider it a good thing?
If you think it will stop with African hunting you are wrong!
How is it one careless cigarette can cause a forest fire, but it takes a whole box of matches to light a campfire?
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:10 AM
#45

Originally Posted by
oaknut
And when hunting and fishing in Canada is banned for the same reason will you still consider it a good thing?
If you think it will stop with African hunting you are wrong!
Really?? Our ability to keep trophy hunting as a viable option in Africa is going to make or break hunting in Canada?
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:13 AM
#46

Originally Posted by
rfb
It's always good to stick your head in the sand and ignore what's going on in the world. And just because I disagree with one aspect of the sport, doesn't make me anti hunting. But i guess it's easier to play the character assassination game than to actually think about the issues.
I've actually put quite a bit of thought into it....and what I've come up with is that if hunters concede their right to hunt "because we want to", we have lost our right to hunt. As soon as we say "only for predator control", "only for food", etc, if that matter can be addressed otherwise - then why should we be allowed to hunt at all? That is the question you need to answer. As soon as you start putting what other hunters do "out of bounds" you can expect others to do the same to your hunting.
What you are doing by posting here against one segment of hunters (trophy hunts) is employing the anti-hunters divide-and-conquer strategy, so don't expect it to be welcomed here. You're not the first to do it and you won't be the last either. And I think you're going to find that you may provide a bit of distraction for a few days, but in the big picture, it's not going to work.
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:15 AM
#47

Originally Posted by
rfb
That's all very well and good but what does that have to do with trophy hunting today.
In reference to you're prior statement "I read that article as well. And good on him for doing that. But i think it's a bit of a stretch to extrapolate that to hunters plural helped create the national parks system".
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:17 AM
#48
United we stand, divided we fall
"I may not have gone where I was supposed to go, but I ended up where I was supposed to be"
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:18 AM
#49
Poaching is the danger to African big game, not trophy hunting. And trophy hunting is what is being used to fund wildlife protection there. You should do your research on this before you start slagging it.
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:21 AM
#50

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Poaching is the danger to African big game, not trophy hunting. And trophy hunting is what is being used to fund wildlife protection there. You should do your research on this before you start slagging it.
I've done my research and the studies on hunting as a conservation tool are mixed at best. I'm perfectly willing to admit poaching plays a large part in the decimation of populations as well but hunting, the way it is set up currently there, plays a role as well.