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April 19th, 2015, 10:45 PM
#31
You can blame MNR all you want for mismanagement but they can't control the km of new logging roads and ATV's that keep them open for decades to come. Moose just have nowhere to hide anymore.
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April 19th, 2015 10:45 PM
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April 19th, 2015, 11:40 PM
#32

Originally Posted by
sawbill
You can blame MNR all you want for mismanagement but they can't control the km of new logging roads and ATV's that keep them open for decades to come. Moose just have nowhere to hide anymore.
There's a lot of truth to that. Most western provinces don't allow ATV use for hunting. Hunting is done on foot,by water or aircraft drop off and you can't hunt for 24 hrs. after arrival at base camp. Don't be surprised if that happens here in Ontario along with more season reductions and restrictions. I think what we're seeing now is only the tip of the iceburg.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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April 20th, 2015, 06:31 AM
#33
Don't forget j 5 s Moe . The road access is certainly a problem but one that is easily fixed . As Mie mentioned manny logging roads up here are restricted and posted , no motorized vehicle use . This does prevent a lot of people from hunting the area they are trying to protect . However ill give you all one guess who this law dies not aply to . You guessed it , up here detour road the Two peek branch was cut , posted right away as the mnr knew of a large heard of moose in the area and wanted to protect them . The natives took over 20 moose out of that cut area that fall .
Blame the problem on anything you want to . But until we are all treated equally any other issue or reason is minor so very minor ..
A Ray
:moose: Live for the adventure, half the fun is getting there !! :fish:
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April 23rd, 2015, 10:38 PM
#34
Everyone has a theory as to why the numbers are down.... interesting article on http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunde...park-1.3044136 if you read the first couple paragraphs. I know spending lots of time in WMU 13/15B, I am seeing many more wolf tracks around the past few years than "normal".
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April 24th, 2015, 12:03 PM
#35

Originally Posted by
mnr
Everyone has a theory as to why the numbers are down.... interesting article on
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunde...park-1.3044136 if you read the first couple paragraphs. I know spending lots of time in WMU 13/15B, I am seeing many more wolf tracks around the past few years than "normal".
That seems to be a common report ! I know we have seen the same in 8, 7b and 9a. Wolf populations are rising.
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April 24th, 2015, 01:46 PM
#36
A big wolf wandered around our property last week. Made the footprints from my neighbour's rottweiler/hound cross look small. It was radio-collared too, according to another neighbour, and was hanging around in a small group of 4.
I hear a larger pack near me, but rarely see them. My wife had a standoff with one last year, nothing came of it and we never saw that wolf again.
As for the moose licence, I think I will skip it this year. Money is tight, and I forgot to enter the draw last year so I am Pool 2. Applying two years just for a chance for one of 137 (bow + gun) tags in WMU 13 in 2016 - I don't think so this time.
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April 24th, 2015, 07:34 PM
#37

Originally Posted by
Moe
There's less road access then ever. In the last 15 years, less cutting is being done which means less road then the pre-2000 period.
Lots of access we have now is being restricted to the general public by the MNR so a few outfitters can benefit.
There was always motorized access, we used to be able to hunt with snowmobiles when the season extended in January. Boats were always a great way to fill tags. The Argo and Terra Jet and 3 wheelers has been around for a long time.
In area #5 there are hundreds upon hundreds of miles of road access open to residents. Some of the roads even restrict non residents from setting up camp, ( Deer Lk. Road), for example. Last year the OMNR spent quite abit of funds before resident deer and moose in order for complete access. They took out culverts and put in "low water crossings." I think their move actually helped spread out hunting pressure.
On Deer Lake Road, you can actually see our tax dollars at work!!! To the good.
Last edited by chris lavoie; April 24th, 2015 at 07:41 PM.
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April 24th, 2015, 07:51 PM
#38
Also, there were bait fish trappers, outfitters, bma holders and trappers that got together. With the omnr's permission we hired a local contractor to fix a road in area #5. We pooled money together and fixed the road at our expense. Had to go by environmental regs of course.
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April 24th, 2015, 08:04 PM
#39

Originally Posted by
chris lavoie
Also, there were bait fish trappers, outfitters, bma holders and trappers that got together. With the omnr's permission we hired a local contractor to fix a road in area #5. We pooled money together and fixed the road at our expense. Had to go by environmental regs of course.
It sounds like you guys are doing a great job in your area,Chris. I hope it's contagious throughout the rest of the province.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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April 24th, 2015, 08:13 PM
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