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June 12th, 2015, 05:19 AM
#11

Originally Posted by
Angus
It actually doesn't sound like, reading your link, that public input had little to do preventing the council from implementing the by-law, it sounds like it was sent back for rewrite to become more simplistic so they can better implemented and enforced it.
Councillor Mike Schenk said, “The OPP has said that since there is no bylaw in place for the whole Township of Richmond, and even though you are in a built-up area, it is hard to press charges.”
Napanee staff presented a first draft of the bylaw, which had some exceptions and restrictions. They were told by the Police Services Board to bring back something more simplistic. Police said a bylaw with specific areas and restrictions would be almost impossible to enforce.
This comment actually touches on something workable for these large amalgamated townships. Instead of an all encompassing restrictive by-law, let the criminal code handle it as a case by case basis.
Chief Administrative Officer, Ray Callery, answered saying, “Careless use (of a firearm) is a criminal code offense … The difficulty is many complaints are noise-based complaints…which makes it very difficult for the police to enforce.”
Back when the City of Ottawa amalgamated, it stretched it's city limits all the way down to the Rideau River to the south encompassing a huge area of farm land etc. The resulting Firearm dis-charge by-law (see link) is a convoluted mess of charts and maps with shaded areas etc.
http://ottawa.ca/en/residents/laws-l...aw-no-2002-344
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June 12th, 2015 05:19 AM
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June 12th, 2015, 01:38 PM
#12

Originally Posted by
MikePal
It actually doesn't sound like, reading your link, that public input had little to do preventing the council from implementing the by-law, it sounds like it was sent back for rewrite to become more simplistic so they can better implemented and enforced it.
I guess if you can't read it in the newspaper it didn't happen.
And what they came back with was going to apply to the whole municipality.
And they got shut down.
I doubt the hunters/shooters in Quinte West area are bend over types either. Other places get what they deserve.
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June 13th, 2015, 05:33 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
Angus
And what they came back with was going to apply to the whole municipality.
And they got shut down.
So your saying that they already had a second vote on the discharge by-law for Napanee since the link you provided ??.....it sounded like they were going to wait til a townhall meeting in Jun before a new draft was to be put forward.
Several residents sent in comments on the bylaw, while others came to listen to council’s discussion. Council decided upon a public meeting in June, that date to be decided at the May 26 Council meeting. Council will welcome residents’ written comments.
It doesn't sound like it's been cancelled at all, it sounds like Greater Napanee will put forward a discharge bylaw for the township once they have received more consultation.
Your not out of the woods yet...so to speak
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June 13th, 2015, 07:10 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
MikePal
So your saying that they already had a second vote on the discharge by-law for Napanee since the link you provided ??.....it sounded like they were going to wait til a townhall meeting in Jun before a new draft was to be put forward.
It doesn't sound like it's been cancelled at all, it sounds like Greater Napanee will put forward a discharge bylaw for the township once they have received more consultation.
Your not out of the woods yet...so to speak

All over on the 8th of October 2013 MP. I wish there was more on the internet about the full house town hall meeting.
All they did was make it illegal to discharge in the area served by water and sewer.
Here's a pdf of the bylaw.
https://greaternapanee.civicweb.net/...D758DC239EE7EB
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June 13th, 2015, 07:17 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
Angus
All over on the 8th of October 2013 MP.
Well that's embarrassing, I never noticed the date of the article in your link...
. I was still thinking of the article posted by Brent.
So they relied on the criminal code to cover the case by case "careless use of a firearm"..best way to handle these large amalgamated townships.
Sorry for the confusion...
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June 13th, 2015, 08:51 AM
#16

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Sorry for the confusion...
No prob, I am glad you made me read the bylaw, note that you can't even use a bow in the area affected. Nothing to do with noise.
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June 13th, 2015, 12:09 PM
#17
When they amalgamated several small municipalities into the City of Greater Sudbury, there was a patchwork of firearms by laws. They formed a committee that included a few shooters and came to the conclusion that there were enough federal and provincial laws regarding safe discharge that they repealed all the existing by laws.
Learn all you can about nature. What we don't understand, we fear and what we fear, we destroy.
Teach a young person to hunt and fish, after all, someone taught you.
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June 13th, 2015, 01:09 PM
#18

Originally Posted by
35wailin
When they amalgamated several small municipalities into the City of Greater Sudbury, there was a patchwork of firearms by laws. They formed a committee that included a few shooters and came to the conclusion that there were enough federal and provincial laws regarding safe discharge that they repealed all the existing by laws.
Exactly, get involved and speak up !
Does the OFAH have a formal means of making sure resolutions like Sudbury are made known to areas like QW that are being threatened with more redundant laws? Will the OFAH be involved with the QW situation?
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June 15th, 2015, 11:19 AM
#19
The OFAH has submitted a letter to the mayor and members of council in Quinte-West, requesting to be involved in the process. This thread is not monitored by OFAH staff, but if you have any questions, please contact OFAH Zone/Member and Club Services Liaison Brian McRae at [email protected]
Quinte West Discharge.jpg
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June 15th, 2015, 11:25 AM
#20
Great to hear...better to do it right before it gets approved/implemented than trying to change their minds later.