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June 15th, 2015, 04:57 PM
#21
Why should there be any reason to be suspended with pay... Cops always look after their own. It is disgusting.
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June 15th, 2015 04:57 PM
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June 15th, 2015, 06:25 PM
#22
Originally Posted by
MountainM
Why should there be any reason to be suspended with pay... Cops always look after their own. It is disgusting.
Why shouldn't they ?
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June 15th, 2015, 07:08 PM
#23
Almost everyone is suspended with pay - innocent until proven guilty in court. The way it should be.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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June 15th, 2015, 07:26 PM
#24
Originally Posted by
Sharon
Almost everyone is suspended with pay - innocent until proven guilty in court. The way it should be.
Not when it is a cop being paid by my hard earned tax dollars.
Even most Chiefs of Police want the law changed latest to comment on this was Chief Brian Larkin , he made the statement in last weeks KW Record.
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June 15th, 2015, 08:56 PM
#25
Originally Posted by
MountainM
Why should there be any reason to be suspended with pay... Cops always look after their own. It is disgusting.
They don't always look after their own and nor should they. I think you will find that when one of them is alleged to have committed a crime outside of work for personal benefit that they will be pursued and prosecuted without prejudice. There are examples of this happening such as Darin Cooper from Toronto. No one helped him and a lot of cops helped put him away. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/toronto-cop-arrested-charged-with-robbery-1.219927 . Kevin Lee is another example where cops from his own force investigated him to the fullest.
http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/crime/2008/07/04/police_accused_in_growop.html
This guy from Hamilton was caught on a wire tap by police. He could have easily been tipped off but he wasn't. This guy's is gonna have a tough time. Already enough evidence was provided to the crown to get the guy detained and denied bail. No help there.
On the other hand if a cop is alleged to assault someone, plant evidence, or theft while in the execution of duty yes you will find that they stick together because they have to. A lot of these types of allegations are unfounded and tactics used by criminals to defimate in order to skew there own prosecution. I won't use your language of always.
Last edited by Mdiddi; June 15th, 2015 at 08:59 PM.
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June 15th, 2015, 10:00 PM
#26
Originally Posted by
jaycee
Not when it is a cop being paid by my hard earned tax dollars.
Even most Chiefs of Police want the law changed latest to comment on this was Chief Brian Larkin , he made the statement in last weeks KW Record.
He must be an idiot. I bet he'd want his pay until proven guilty.
This is a democracy. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty ie proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As it takes 2 years to get things settled in court, why should someone and their family go without pay until they are found guilty or not guilty.
I had a boss once who wanted me to take a leave (without pay) because she was concerned about my health.
Unbelievable.
I grieved it and of course won.
Last edited by Sharon; June 15th, 2015 at 10:03 PM.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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June 15th, 2015, 10:25 PM
#27
Originally Posted by
jaycee
Not when it is a cop being paid by my hard earned tax dollars.
Even most Chiefs of Police want the law changed latest to comment on this was Chief Brian Larkin , he made the statement in last weeks KW Record.
Originally Posted by
Sharon
He must be an idiot. I bet he'd want his pay until proven guilty.
This is a democracy. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty ie proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As it takes 2 years to get things settled in court, why should someone and their family go without pay until they are found guilty or not guilty.
I had a boss once who wanted me to take a leave (without pay) because she was concerned about my health.
Unbelievable.
I grieved it and of course won.
Of course a chief would want to stop the practice. He is management. The paid, suspended officers still come out of his budget but are of no use to him...whether they are guilty or not.
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June 15th, 2015, 10:58 PM
#28
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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June 16th, 2015, 08:53 AM
#29
I don't mind the paid suspension while things are before the courts but if found guilty you must pay it all back to the date the crime was committed .
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June 16th, 2015, 10:06 AM
#30
Originally Posted by
Sharon
He must be an idiot. I bet he'd want his pay until proven guilty.
This is a democracy. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty ie proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As it takes 2 years to get things settled in court, why should someone and their family go without pay until they are found guilty or not guilty.
I had a boss once who wanted me to take a leave (without pay) because she was concerned about my health.
Unbelievable.
I grieved it and of course won.
If it was up to me, with all the evidence against them , suspend them without pay , then perhaps they wouldn't stall as long as they do , then and only then if they are proven innocent by way of the courts or hearings , they then would receive their pay retroactively.
If found guilty, too bad so sad but you screwed up you're out of here good by good riddance, no appeals nada end of story.
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