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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter John View Post
    No Bias in that site at all.

    If the flag is used to incite racism, which it was in the 60s and done so by the government of the time, then it is this History that should also be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo D View Post
    Look who's calling the kettle black. Should we ban the British flag and quite possibly the Canadian flag for the atrocities and racisim shown the natives way back when and still today. Leave it alone and it shouldn't even be up here for discussion.
    Yeah... that's why govt's have said "sorry" (in some cases numerous times), paid reparations, launched public education campaigns, etc.

    Also, you're comparing nation(s)' flags to that of a rebel cause. If the south had won... then maybe they'd get a final say in what/when/why/where the rebel flag is flown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    Was the British or Canadian flags been used specifically for the purpose of causing fear and stirring racism?

    If so then yes, we should take them down too.

    The confederate battle flag is not even the confederate flag, it is specifically a flag used in battle in the civil war. This flag has been used specifically for the purpose of racism in the southern US. The same way as people use the Nazi flag to incite racism the confederate flag was not put up for the purpose of showing history but to cause problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    No Bias in that site at all.

    If the flag is used to incite racism, which it was in the 60s and done so by the government of the time, then it is this History that should also be considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seabast View Post
    Take it down!!!!
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    But i've seen that flag worn better....
    Roosted ain't Roasted.

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    Friends and relatives living in the South have always said that an undercurrent of sympathy/empathy for The Confederacy has always existed in small towns and cities for generations since the end of The Civil War by both whites and African Americans alike,despite the segregationist tribulations of the early 60's. Recognizing that current efforts to eliminate the Battle Flag from official state government sites is an effort to establish a dialogue leading to relieving racial angst may serve only to polarize sentiments leading to even further rancor...the exact opposite of the best of intentions. Time will tell......soon.
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    If some dumb azzz with a gun had not shot up a church well wearing this flag would we even be talking about it ,we blame the flag and blame the gun ,but it was a kid that did the deed not the flag or the gun ,,,,Dutch

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Friends and relatives living in the South have always said that an undercurrent of sympathy/empathy for The Confederacy has always existed in small towns and cities for generations since the end of The Civil War by both whites and African Americans alike,
    Yeah... i know some of them. They live just down the street from the Native Americans who miss being raped in the residential schools or being left to die of simple ailments by white doctors. And they're just around the corner from that Jew who really loves oversized nat-gas ovens.

    Quote Originally Posted by dutchhunter View Post
    If some dumb azzz with a gun had not shot up a church well wearing this flag would we even be talking about it ,we blame the flag and blame the gun ,but it was a kid that did the deed not the flag or the gun ,,,,Dutch
    Y'know, maybe you're onto something? I mean, certainly, prior to last week nobody had ever talked about racism in the south, nor ever identified the confederate flag as a symbol of hatred and oppression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dutchhunter View Post
    If some dumb azzz with a gun had not shot up a church well wearing this flag would we even be talking about it ,we blame the flag and blame the gun ,but it was a kid that did the deed not the flag or the gun ,,,,Dutch
    He was not wearing the flag......
    Another hands up don't shoot myth.
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    This flag that is in so much dispute , was originally the "Battle Flag of The Army of Tennessee " and then adopted as the Confederacy Flag.

    Army of Tennessee
    Battle flag
    Active November 1862 – April 1865
    Country Confederate States of America
    Branch Confederate States Army
    Role Largest Confederate field army in Western Theater
    Engagements American Civil War
    Commanders
    Notable
    commanders
    Albert Sidney Johnston
    Braxton Bragg
    Joseph E. Johnston

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    It was a symbol over a hundred years ago of rebellion against the British influence in the north. It has come to mean many things since then as people continue to revise history even here. Look it up and just look at it for what it was. It has changed a lot as a symbol since the day they ran it up in Tennessee. That's why everyone is so confused. Hell. If it looks like something that no one likes now then get rid of it. If it offends people then we all get to speak. Cheers.

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    The Confederate flag existed and had a strong southern connection before the civil war. The south did not want to join the union and fought to retain their unique southern identity. The flag gained recognition and connection to slavery following the war.
    The Confederate flag has a much deeper meaning in the southern states than we northeners understand.
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    You can't let a psycopaths actions alter behavior of normal society.
    Racism is in a persons head, not on a piece of cloth.
    That flag is not going anywhere. For starters - its unconstitutional.

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