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June 27th, 2015, 12:55 PM
#61
It's called cultural cleansing - ISIS does it whenever they take over a location - get rid of everything they don't like - http://video.foxnews.com/v/432088500...#sp=show-clips
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June 27th, 2015 12:55 PM
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June 27th, 2015, 01:10 PM
#62
Originally Posted by
JoePa
Yep...or deem as "offensive."
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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June 27th, 2015, 01:19 PM
#63
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June 27th, 2015, 02:00 PM
#64
Most people i know thinks I means your a redneck and a proud one.Taken the flag down isn't going to fix the problem
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June 27th, 2015, 02:09 PM
#65
Originally Posted by
3030
Most people i know thinks I means your a redneck and a proud one.Taken the flag down isn't going to fix the problem
It appears that "taking it down" may only serve to make things worse.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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June 27th, 2015, 02:34 PM
#66
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June 27th, 2015, 02:45 PM
#67
Don't like where this is heading. Any bets or takers on more rioting and looting.
SkyBlue Big Game Blueticks
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June 27th, 2015, 03:50 PM
#68
With all the hoopla going on the last few days, it is important to remember that everyone affected by the Civil War, Union or Confederate, enslaved or free, black or white, were humans doing what they thought was right. No matter which side they were on, the combatants and their loved ones suffered hardship and loss.
I support the position of the organizations and businesses who have decided to discontinue producing and/or marketing consumer items that are "stand alone" Confederate flag depictions. They are not telling anyone that it is wrong to wear or fly symbols of the Confederate States of America. They are saying that they no longer feel that it is appropriate for themselves to sell paraphernalia which is offensive to many Americans. I believe in freedom of choice. They have made a choice. I can now choose to continue to support those businesses or corporations, or not.
If an individual chooses to wear, tattoo, paint, or fly the Confederate battle flag, that is their business. Too, if a corporation chooses not to manufacture or market those items, that is their business.
The argument that the Civil War was about "states rights", as much or moreso than slavery doesn't hold water. If it was about states rights at all, it was about a states rights to legal slavery. The confederate states had no problem crying "states rights" when the United States government and abolitionists endeavoured to create laws that would lead to an eventual demise of the institution of slavery, yet cried foul when non-slave states declared they would defy a federal law requiring them to arrest and return fugitive slaves found in their territories. In essence they claimed states rights when it benefitted them yet called for the federal government to ignore states rights when it didn't.
When it comes to state governments flying the Confederate battle flag on or near their buildings, why should a black person who likely has ancestors who were enslaved have to endure walking under that every day? Would it be appropriate to expect a Jewish person have to tolerate the same under a swastika?
For some people, the flag represents the South. For most people, Old Glory represents the entire nation. Nobody fought overseas for the battle flag of the Confederacy. It is hardly representative of black southerners.
For the record, I am in awe of the tenacity and spirit of the Confederate armies, particularly the Army of Northern Virginia. Generals Lee, Jackson, Longstreet et al were brilliant and honourable men. They and their armies fought so well, for so long, with so little. They fought valiantly, heroically, and with honour. But the "Cause" was wrong then. It is wrong today.
I have a Confederate battle flag hanging in my basement, in historical context, next to a 34 star Union flag, which represents the correct Union flag flown during the battles at Second Manassas, Antietam, and Gettysburg, which most pique my interest. I am certainly not ashamed of that. But would I fly one from my car antenna? No.
You’re lucky to have the gear you already have. Some people wish they had stuff as nice as the stuff you think isn’t good enough. - Bill Heavey
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June 27th, 2015, 10:04 PM
#69
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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June 30th, 2015, 04:33 PM
#70
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