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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldH View Post
    Oh, I thought you said economists. Which is it, economists or 'knowledgeable people"??
    None of this matters. Budgets balance themselves right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldH View Post
    Oh, I thought you said economists. Which is it, economists or 'knowledgeable people"??

    Ah.... sounds like the usual dismissal of reality.... many make that kind of decision to avoid the implications and requirements of truth in the world today. I think Pierre Trudeau had it as well as his son... after all the national debt went up 10X under him.

    Now as for the expertise, did you even look at what they said, did you ever take any business/economics course? You seem very dismissive of those that have actual experience and made careful studies... as can be seen in the Fraser Institutes Mission Statement...
    A rigorous research methodology that lays out clearly how we arrive at specific conclusions. The Fraser Institute promotes transparency in research – in other words, our methodology is open and clearly explained, and others can replicate our conclusions. In addition, the source of our data is always provided

    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/abou...e/mission.aspx


    I guess you are free to ignore the truth.... but it is still true.

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    Is that the best you have Harold? Your going to have to bring a better game than that if
    A) You think differently and don't live in some other province.
    B) Your trying to get under my skin. Many people a lot um…whatever..have tried and failed, sometimes miserably.

    I mean really. Many things are well documented but if you insist on making or trying to prove something, perhaps the fact their own hired gun ripped them new ones (aka Don Drummond). Maybe that should be your first clue or clue to stop while your behind? On topic of "PS" well that to is well documented. Are you trying to look, I don't know what.

    I don't get it, no-one suggest one should like MH or the Cons or NDP but living in this denial despite soooooooo very much.
    /boggle

    /do note, it didn't escape notice that all you had was….

    /editting to try and get ahead of something
    Moodys
    Unemployment (still high)
    People leaving the province (even the libs have this on their site) Pop growth trend down.
    The fact they are broke taxing everything they can and selling things
    Cant pay for infrastructure, or Nurses
    Have no more money for PS
    Have to change Pensions (too expensive and too many)
    Growth in the Sunshine list (last 2 years alone insane)
    Not enough peons and those that are working have seen…what????
    Can I stop now

    Unions?
    Where can we start and stop?

    Like really, not sure how to word this but its like denying the Sun doesn't rise in the East. If you haven't caught any news right/left/centric….Things aren't sooo good and there are big problems.And if all there is calling into questions "economist" or "knowledgeable" people….I don't want to state the obvious and prefer we just say ayup. This admin is inept, corrupt and more.
    Last edited by JBen; June 27th, 2015 at 04:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBen View Post
    Your trying to get under my skin. Many people a lot um…whatever..have tried and failed, sometimes miserably.
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    Harold is a liberal. Must not be a gun owner...

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    Why cannot be both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishermccann View Post
    Why cannot be both?
    If you are a gun owner and want to keep them, why would you be part of a party that wants to take them away and get rid of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffBondar View Post
    If you are a gun owner and want to keep them, why would you be part of a party that wants to take them away and get rid of them?
    This.^^^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Species8472 View Post
    Sorry can't help myself - Who would win - A great horned or a dog?
    Lol,

    And nice to see it died down. Peoples affiliations "shouldn't" come into play. But that shouldn't stop or get in the way of accepting the facts and many problems. No-one denies (anymore) that the GEA is a major screw up, resulting in many many problems, soaring hydro, partly responsible for some closures/job losses. And what have they done about it? Jack squat (see also Healthcare).

    This topic is little different. The reality is there are or is virtually nothing be it healthcare, be it education, be it X that this admin hasn't screwed up.

    When one is inept, incapable, not up to snuff, the screw-ups or damage does tend to be widespread. When one is corrupt ( can anyone deny this now??)……Stands to reason doesn't it? Is it logically consistent to argue that someone (or thing) who has proven to be so inept in so many areas, would do a good job elsewhere (PS). And the fact is, they have screwed up so badly, the fact is even "PS" is now turning on them as a result. "We" don't have the money for Doctors, or Nurses, or biologist, COs (the MNR) or XYZ. OR

    enough Teachers to keep class sizes at optimum levels. No-one to blame but……THemselves.
    Couldn't possibly be because its an over bloated over compensated beuaracrcy could it?

    It's like arguing the sun doesn't rise in the east.
    Last edited by JBen; June 30th, 2015 at 05:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBen View Post
    Lol,

    And nice to see it died down. Peoples affiliations "shouldn't" come into play. But that shouldn't stop or get in the way of accepting the facts and many problems. No-one denies (anymore) that the GEA is a major screw up, resulting in many many problems, soaring hydro, partly responsible for some closures/job losses. And what have they done about it? Jack squat (see also Healthcare).

    This topic is little different. The reality is there are or is virtually nothing be it healthcare, be it education, be it X that this admin hasn't screwed up.

    When one is inept, incapable, not up to snuff, the screw-ups or damage does tend to be widespread. When one is corrupt ( can anyone deny this now??)……Stands to reason doesn't it? Is it logically consistent to argue that someone (or thing) who has proven to be so inept in so many areas, would do a good job elsewhere (PS). And the fact is, they have screwed up so badly, the fact is even "PS" is now turning on them as a result. "We" don't have the money for Doctors, or Nurses, or biologist, COs (the MNR) or XYZ. OR

    enough Teachers to keep class sizes at optimum levels. No-one to blame but……THemselves.
    Couldn't possibly be because its an over bloated over compensated beuaracrcy could it?

    It's like arguing the sun doesn't rise in the east.
    This,too.^^^^^^^

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